What does it really mean to get back up when life takes you in a completely different direction?

In this episode of I Got Back Up, Talia is joined by Chris Robshaw, former England rugby captain, for an honest conversation about resilience, identity, and overcoming setbacks in sport and in life. Drawing on his career in professional rugby, Chris reflects on the highs, the injuries, the public scrutiny, and the challenges of walking away from the game that shaped so much of who he was.

Chris shares how trust, preparation, self-belief, and the support of those around him helped him navigate difficult moments, rebuild confidence, and embrace new challenges. From managing the physical demands of professional rugby to finding purpose after retirement, taking on a marathon and triathlon, and stepping into the spotlight on Strictly Come Dancing, his journey is a reminder that resilience is not always about returning to who you were. Sometimes, it is about discovering who you can become.

Together, they explore the importance of showing up on the tough days, learning to accept support, facing fear, and having the confidence to step outside your comfort zone, even when you feel far from ready.

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What happens when your own thoughts become your biggest source of fear?

Joining Talia in the studio this week is Oliver Moorhouse, for a raw and honest conversation about OCD, health anxiety, intrusive thoughts, resilience and learning to live with uncertainty.

Ollie shares his personal experience of health anxiety and the obsessive thoughts and behaviours that can come with it, including checking, researching symptoms, avoiding triggers, and getting caught in cycles of fear. He explains how therapy, acceptance, self-awareness, exercise, sleep and building a personal "toolbox" of coping strategies have helped him manage his mental health and stay grounded.

The conversation also explores the importance of vulnerability, family and friendship, why picking up the phone can sometimes mean more than sending a text and how checking in honestly with the people around us can make a huge difference.

Rather than searching for a quick fix, Ollie discusses learning to manage anxiety, recognise patterns and keep moving forward - even when difficult thoughts return.

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What happens when alcohol stops being the solution and starts becoming part of the problem?

Joining Talia this week is Millie Gooch, author, speaker and founder of Sober Girl Society, for an honest conversation about drinking, anxiety, sobriety, confidence, and learning to navigate life without alcohol.

Millie shares her journey from university drinking culture and blackout anxiety to nearly nine years sober, exploring how alcohol became a way to manage confidence and difficult emotions before ultimately making her mental health worse. She also explains the science behind alcohol-related anxiety, sleep disruption, and blackouts, while opening up about the identity shift that came with sobriety.

The conversation also explores therapy, panic attacks, self-discovery, and how sobriety helped Millie better understand herself. She shares how Sober Girl Society grew from a small idea into a community supporting sober and sober-curious women, alongside practical advice for building confidence without relying on alcohol.

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Joining Talia this week is professional footballer Tom Lockyer for an honest conversation about surviving cardiac arrest, trauma, resilience, and discovering who you are beyond football.

Tom's career took him from being released by a professional academy at just 15 for being considered too small, through non-league football and spells with Bristol Rovers and Charlton Athletic, before spending six years at Luton Town and helping the club reach the Premier League. But his life changed dramatically after suffering cardiac arrests on the pitch.

Tom opens up about collapsing during Luton's Championship play-off final at Wembley, later being diagnosed with atrial fibrillation, and then suffering another cardiac arrest while playing against Bournemouth in the Premier League. He recalls waking up surrounded by paramedics and discovering that he had been clinically dead for 2 minutes and 42 seconds.

The conversation goes far beyond football, exploring the delayed impact of trauma, anxiety, identity loss, and the challenge of rebuilding your life when the career that defined you is suddenly taken away.

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What happens when the applause fades and you're left to face your biggest battles alone?

Joining Talia in the studio this week is former Premier League footballer, professional boxer, mental health advocate, and author Leon McKenzie for one of his most honest conversations yet.

After a successful football career with clubs including Norwich City, Coventry City and Crystal Palace, Leon transitioned into professional boxing before dedicating his life to raising awareness of mental health. Having experienced depression, trauma, and suicidal thoughts, he now uses his platform to help others realise that healing is possible and that asking for help is a sign of strength, not weakness.

Together, Talia and Leon explore the lifelong impact of childhood experiences, the non-linear journey of healing, and how faith, purpose, self-love, and vulnerability have helped him rebuild his life. This is an emotional conversation about surviving the darkest moments, embracing authenticity, and discovering the strength to keep getting back up.

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What if the biggest setback of your life became the foundation for your greatest achievements?

In this inspiring episode Talia is joined by Paralympic gold medallist, MBE, motivational speaker, and disability advocate Aaron Phipps. After contracting meningitis as a teenager, Aaron underwent life-saving surgery that resulted in the amputation of both legs. Rather than allowing adversity to define him, he rebuilt his life, becoming one of Great Britain's most celebrated wheelchair rugby players and helping Team GB win Paralympic gold at the Tokyo 2020 Games.

Aaron shares the mindset that has carried him from hospital beds to the Paralympic podium, opening up about resilience, mental health, embracing risk, and finding purpose through life's greatest challenges. He also reflects on pushing beyond perceived limits, including becoming the first person to climb Mount Kilimanjaro in a wheelchair, proving that impossible is often just a starting point.

This conversation is a powerful reminder that resilience isn't about avoiding hardship, it's about choosing to rise every single time life knocks you down.

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What does it really take to get back up when life doesn't go to plan?

Joining Talia in the studio this week is former England and British & Irish Lions rugby star James Haskell. Since retiring from professional rugby, James has successfully reinvented himself as a bestselling author, broadcaster, podcaster, entrepreneur, and international DJ, proving that life after elite sport can be just as rewarding as the career that came before it.

Together, they dive into the mindset behind resilience, the power of self-belief, and how embracing setbacks can become the catalyst for growth. James opens up about protecting his mental health, learning from failure, building confidence through visualization, and staying authentic in a world increasingly shaped by social media. The conversation also explores relationships, setting healthy boundaries, finding purpose beyond sport, and even James' fascination with the universe and life beyond Earth.

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What happens when life throws challenge after challenge your way? For Ottilie Quince, the answer has always been the same: keep moving forward.

In this episode Talia sits down with kidney transplant recipient, cyclist, and resilience advocate Ottilie Quince to explore her extraordinary journey through chronic illness, organ transplantation, and rediscovering purpose.

Ottilie shares the realities of living with end-stage kidney disease, the emotional highs and lows of receiving a transplant, and how cycling became far more than a hobby—it became a lifeline.

Together, they discuss the power of community, self-advocacy in healthcare, and why embracing life's setbacks can lead to unexpected opportunities for growth.

Whether you're facing your own health challenges or supporting someone who is, this conversation is a powerful reminder that resilience isn't about avoiding adversity; it's about learning how to navigate it, getting back up and taking it one step at a time.

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