What does it really mean to get back up when life takes you in a completely different direction?

In this episode of I Got Back Up, Talia is joined by Chris Robshaw, former England rugby captain, for an honest conversation about resilience, identity, and overcoming setbacks in sport and in life. Drawing on his career in professional rugby, Chris reflects on the highs, the injuries, the public scrutiny, and the challenges of walking away from the game that shaped so much of who he was.

Chris shares how trust, preparation, self-belief, and the support of those around him helped him navigate difficult moments, rebuild confidence, and embrace new challenges. From managing the physical demands of professional rugby to finding purpose after retirement, taking on a marathon and triathlon, and stepping into the spotlight on Strictly Come Dancing, his journey is a reminder that resilience is not always about returning to who you were. Sometimes, it is about discovering who you can become.

Together, they explore the importance of showing up on the tough days, learning to accept support, facing fear, and having the confidence to step outside your comfort zone, even when you feel far from ready.

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What happens when your own thoughts become your biggest source of fear?

Joining Talia in the studio this week is Oliver Moorhouse, for a raw and honest conversation about OCD, health anxiety, intrusive thoughts, resilience and learning to live with uncertainty.

Ollie shares his personal experience of health anxiety and the obsessive thoughts and behaviours that can come with it, including checking, researching symptoms, avoiding triggers, and getting caught in cycles of fear. He explains how therapy, acceptance, self-awareness, exercise, sleep and building a personal "toolbox" of coping strategies have helped him manage his mental health and stay grounded.

The conversation also explores the importance of vulnerability, family and friendship, why picking up the phone can sometimes mean more than sending a text and how checking in honestly with the people around us can make a huge difference.

Rather than searching for a quick fix, Ollie discusses learning to manage anxiety, recognise patterns and keep moving forward - even when difficult thoughts return.

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What happens when alcohol stops being the solution and starts becoming part of the problem?

Joining Talia this week is Millie Gooch, author, speaker and founder of Sober Girl Society, for an honest conversation about drinking, anxiety, sobriety, confidence, and learning to navigate life without alcohol.

Millie shares her journey from university drinking culture and blackout anxiety to nearly nine years sober, exploring how alcohol became a way to manage confidence and difficult emotions before ultimately making her mental health worse. She also explains the science behind alcohol-related anxiety, sleep disruption, and blackouts, while opening up about the identity shift that came with sobriety.

The conversation also explores therapy, panic attacks, self-discovery, and how sobriety helped Millie better understand herself. She shares how Sober Girl Society grew from a small idea into a community supporting sober and sober-curious women, alongside practical advice for building confidence without relying on alcohol.

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