Bob is out of injury jail — sort of. The bone bruise still won't quit, so there's now a rigid carbon plate living in one shoe, a health-insurance mystery he refuses to let go of, and a certain very-trending procedure finally checked off the list. Meanwhile KJ preps for Badwater the only sensible way: baking in his condo sauna until he's a certified Heat Champion (belt included), then cramming a Furnace 50K, Eastern States, and a wedding into the same three weeks.

We recap Western States from the couch — Tammy Hellings' incredible late rally, the new pole and traction-device rules, and Oak's fateful portapotty miscalculation — then coin the term ultrarunning has been missing: the tricerabottom (you'll have to listen). Captain's Corner heads to the Woodrow Wilson Presidential Library in Staunton (pronounced "Stanton"), Bob strikes out at the Met but wins Central Park, KJ visits the Flight 93 Memorial, and caps it off with a surprise first-place relay leg at Laurel Highlands. Back in about a month — we'll make July happen.

Got a DNF — or a DNOF — story of your own? Go write it at https://chatdnf.com.

You Said 100 Miles has a website, with auto-scrolling transcripts Bob spent way too long building: https://yousaid100miles.com — come join the Discord.

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KJ tours the Green Bank Observatory inside West Virginia's radio-quiet zone (no cell phones, very big dishes) and runs the WV Trail Festival at Snowshoe — fog, a pizza-oven aid station, and a website worth copying. Bob hits Cedar Point and the Field Museum's Pokémon Fossil exhibit while nursing a bone bruise. We do actually talk some about ultrarunning: Cocodona, controversial finishes, running funks, volunteering and finding running joy again. No swimming, no depressing shit.

Got a DNF story of your own? Go write it at https://chatdnf.com.

You Said 100 Miles has a website: https://yousaid100miles.com

Check out the other Team Puma Knife Podcasts at https://www.teampumaknife.com, including Subtle Interference on Spotify and Apple Podcasts.

Episode Artwork Attribution: NRAO/AUI/NSF, CC BY 4.0 , via Wikimedia Commons

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Bob and KJ reconvene to recap the Hyner 50K — Paul left it all out there at 6:06, Elliot had a solid day, KJ ran his fastest Hyner ever despite a deeply unwise dive bar pizza the night before, and Bob rolled his ankle at mile 4, kicked the other foot into a rock, ran out of water, and DNF’d at mile 16. Allegedly while wearing two watches. The cake table at the finish line is real, and SOB Hill earned its name.

Also on deck: Bob tours the First Division Museum at Cantigny, KJ paces Motivation Theory Running to a big PR at the C&O Canal 100, then walks up the AT to Jefferson’s Rock, lipoprotein(a), KJ pitches a fix the Western States lottery and Bob counters with an Olympic-style qualifier race (held at Hyner, naturally).

Bob previews a new feature for ChatDNF that might actually be useful for people to come out soon, maybe. Until then, go write your DNF story at https://chatdnf.com.

You Said 100 Miles now has a website: https://yousaid100miles.com

Check out the other Team Puma Knife Podcasts at https://www.teampumaknife.com, including Subtle Interference on Spotify and Apple Podcasts.

Theme song courtesy of Pommelsmith — https://pommelsmith.bandcamp.com

Bob’s back from the Field Museum, KJ has strong opinions about water parks, and special guest Jada Freer joins fresh off running the Badwater Cape Fear 50K to give us the full debrief — hectic travel, dolphin sightings, golf cart navigation failures, and a trail section that was genuinely not built for tall people.

Also: Creeper Socks get their moment, bib boards get a serious policy discussion, the Saunter Triple Crown is born, Jada’s safety pin sock system is revealed and immediately causes chaos, Cocodona is moving to a lottery, and KJ is outfitting a Starlink backpack for Badwater 135 crewing duties.

If you DNF’d a race and need someone to process it for you, check out ChatDNF.com. Bob built it. It might sting a little.

You Said 100 Miles now has a website: yousaid100miles.com

Check out the other Team Puma Knife Podcasts at www.teampumaknife.com, including Subtle Interference on Spotify and Apple Podcasts.

Theme song courtesy of Pommelsmith.

Bob’s ailments, KJ’s coaching, and much discussion about how Bob is an old man who hates social media.

You Said 100 Miles now has a website! https://yousaid100miles.com. You can finally get in touch with us!

Check out the other Team Puma Knife Podcasts at www.teampumaknife.com, including Subtle Interference which you can find on Spotify and Apple Podcasts or download directly here: SubtleInterference – Team Puma Knife

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Sass returns and Erica joins for a random episode about a very hot TV show.

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Special Guests Oak Miller and Steve Tursi join Bob and KJ to talk about their race at the 2026 St. Croix 40 Winter Ultra, including our very interesting experience having a Juicy Lucy before the race. Museum lovers fear not, there is much talk about Paisley Park at the end!

Some alternate title suggestions from the AI:

The Great St. Croix Saunter: A Winter Adventure
From DNF to Victory: The St. Croix Saunter Experience
Winter Ultra Shenanigans: Gear, Burgers, and Friendship
Roller Coasters and Race Prep: A Winter Ultra Journey
Surviving the Chill: Insights from a Winter Ultra Marathon
Sledding Shenanigans: Tales from the Trail
Headlamps and Hills: A Journey of Endurance

Check out the other Team Puma Knife Podcasts at www.teampumaknife.com, including Subtle Interference which you can find on Spotify and Apple Podcasts or download directly here: SubtleInterference – Team Puma Knife

Theme song courtesy of Pommelsmith

Scott Kummer of Ten Junk Miles joins Bob & Kevin to recap the 14th Annual Torchy’s Run and talk about winter ultras in advance of Bob & Kevin wandering in the snow at the St. Croix 40 winter ultra next month. There is museum chat, professional wrestling chat, and Kevin gives us his breakdown of the Taco Bell 50K and the Devil Dog 100.

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Come run one of the TJM races in 2016! Registration is open for all 3 races:

Sugar Badger: https://ultrasignup.com/register.aspx?did=127092

Badger: https://ultrasignup.com/register.aspx?did=128933

Dot’s Last Standing: https://ultrasignup.com/register.aspx?did=130317

Check out the other Team Puma Knife Podcasts at www.teampumaknife.com, including Subtle Interference which you can find on Spotify and Apple Podcasts or download directly here: SubtleInterference – Team Puma Knife

Theme song courtesy of Pommelsmith