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The Selling Podcast

The Selling Podcast

Von: Mike Williams and Scott Schlofman
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Feeling stuck in a sales slump? Pipeline looking thinner than a supermodel on a juice cleanse? Want to grow your business faster than a startup funded by a lottery winner? Then buckle up, buttercup, because "The Selling Podcast" is your new obsession!


Join your seasoned (slightly graying but still very spry) sales pros, Mike and Scott, who collectively boast over 50 years of crushing quotas (and racking up enough airline and hotel points to live perpetually in a suite). They're not just here to drop wisdom; they're here to deliver a potent mix of "deep-ish thoughts and some truly mediocre advice" (their words, not ours... mostly) on everything from closing monster deals to navigating the wild ride of life.


Every week, prepare for unfiltered stories, battle-tested philosophies, hard-earned insights, and enough random tangents to keep you laughing – and learning! They even drag in some special guests (who usually offer the really deep insights, just between us) to elevate the conversation even further.


Whether you're a seasoned sales manager, a hungry rep grinding for commission, or just someone who wants to understand the human element of persuasion, Mike and Scott cut through the fluff with their signature blend of sharp sales strategies and hilarious banter.


Stop wishing for more sales, start getting them! Hit subscribe, join the conversation, and let Mike and Scott help you sell better, live better, and most of all... enjoy all of it!

2025 Mike Williams and Scott Schlofman
Erfolg im Beruf Management & Leadership Ökonomie
  • Why Your Current Sales Title is Holding You Back: From Sculptor to Sistine Chapel
    Sep 30 2026

    Feeling creatively stuck in your current role? Join Scott and the (self-proclaimed) "heartless" Mike on this week’s episode of The Selling Podcast as they dive into an unlikely masterclass on professional evolution: the life of Michelangelo.

    Forget everything you think you know about the Renaissance master. Mike, who admits he usually remains emotionally detached from art, shares why Michelangelo’s work—specifically the gut-wrenching Pietà—finally broke through his pragmatism.

    This episode isn’t a stuffy art history lecture. It’s a high-energy discussion on why defining yourself by a single, limiting label is the fastest way to kill your sales career. Michelangelo didn’t see himself as a painter; he was a sculptor, through and through. Yet, when the Pope "assigned" him the four-year, neck-breaking task of painting the Sistine Chapel, he didn't quit. He adapted. He committed. And he created one of the most defining masterpieces in human history as a "side hustle."

    Scott and Mike use this historical pivot to challenge salespeople everywhere. Are you limiting your potential by calling yourself "just a hunter," "a closer," or "a brochure-pusher"?

    In this episode, you’ll discover:

    • Why Your Title is a Trap: How self-limiting labels become self-fulfilling prophecies that stunt your professional growth.
    • The "Sistine Chapel" Syndrome: Why you must be willing to take on assignments outside your wheelhouse to discover your true genius.
    • Transferable Genius: How Scott went from door-to-door orthopedic sales to international consulting and financial planning by recognizing his adaptable skill set.
    • Evolution, Not Abandonment: The crucial difference between pivoting your skillset (like a sculptor learning to paint) and making a completely random career jump (like a sculptor becoming a fly fisherman).
    • The Long Game: How to view your career as a continual Renaissance, where your best work may not happen until the "second half."

    Whether you’re a sales newbie or a seasoned vet feeling bored, this episode of The Selling Podcast will light a fire under your professional stagnation. Tune in to learn how to channel your inner Renaissance man and realize that, like Michelangelo, your current skillset doesn’t have to define your future masterpiece.

    Don't take yourself too seriously, keep your eyes open for opportunities everywhere, and stop being a "stupid Raphael"—listen now!

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    29 Min.
  • What Your Hands Are Saying When You're Selling
    Sep 23 2026

    In this episode of "The Selling Podcast," hosts Scott and Mike tackle the 90% of communication that isn't verbal: body language and hand gestures during sales presentations.

    Prompted by Scott's recent broken hand and subsequent awareness of his own gestures, the duo explores the critical nuances of non-verbal communication in sales. They contrast high-energy, large gestures used in public speaking with the smaller, controlled, and deliberate movements required for sales presentations to build trust and confidence.

    The episode provides a practical breakdown of specific hand gestures and body language habits, including:

    • The power of open palms: Signifying openness and honesty.
    • Fidgeting as a crutch: Why clicking pens, swiveling in chairs, or twirling objects signals confusion and lack of confidence.
    • The aggression of pointing: Why you should never point directly at a customer, and what to do instead.
    • The importance of stillness: How to control your body while listening to demonstrate engagement.
    • Mirroring vs. Matching Energy: How to read the room and reflect the customer's vibe without mimicking their anxiety.

    Ultimately, the hosts encourage sales professionals to videotape themselves to identify distracting habits and practice delivering their message under the constraint of controlled, deliberate movement.

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    33 Min.
  • The Three Deadly Sins of Professional Selling
    Sep 16 2026

    In this episode of "The Selling Podcast," hosts Scott and Mike dive deep into the foundational behaviors that separate true sales professionals from the amateurs. Moving beyond simple tactics, they identify three critical mistakes that a professional salesperson should never make.

    The discussion covers:

    1. Talking more than you listen: Drawing parallels to the medical field, they argue that "prescription without diagnosis is malpractice." Salespeople must act as diagnosticians, asking broad questions and narrowing down to root causes before presenting solutions.
    2. Lying, exaggerating, or hiding problems: Scott and Mike emphasize that honesty regarding product limitations builds long-term trust and protects reputation, which is far more valuable than a single commission check.
    3. Chasing unwilling prospects: The hosts discuss the futility of "splashing around the lake trying to catch one fish." They distinguish between desperation and persistence, advising sales professionals to accept "no" gracefully and focus their energy on engaged buyers.
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    31 Min.
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