In this episode of TechMagic, hosts Cathy Hackl and Lee Kebler, unpack the realities behind today’s AI headlines. They explore OpenAI’s shift toward advertising, the growing human bottleneck in data center expansion, and why the AI conversation is moving beyond productivity toward physical and human-centred systems. The discussion dives into the surprising earning power of skilled trades, how XR is transforming workforce training, and why the metaverse was never just about VR headsets. From VRChat to The Sims, Cathy and Lee reveal where the spatial web is quietly taking shape, and what it all means for the future of work and technology.

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Cathy Hackl Bio

Cathy Hackl is a globally recognized tech & gaming executive, futurist, and speaker focused on spatial computing, virtual worlds, augmented reality, AI, strategic foresight, and gaming platforms strategy. She’s one of the top tech voices on LinkedIn and is the CEO of Spatial Dynamics, a spatial computing and AI solutions company, including gaming.

Cathy has worked at Amazon Web Services (AWS), Magic Leap, and HTC VIVE and has advised companies like Nike, Ralph Lauren, Walmart, Louis Vuitton, and Clinique on their emerging tech and gaming journeys. She has spoken at Harvard Business School, MIT, SXSW, Comic-Con, WEF Annual Meeting in Davos 2023, CES, MWC, Vogue’s Forces of Fashion, and more.

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Spatial Dynamics on LinkedIn

Lee Kebler Bio

Lee has been at the forefront of blending technology and entertainment since 2003, creating advanced studios for icons like Will.i.am and producing music for Britney Spears and Big & Rich. Pioneering in VR since 2016, he has managed enterprise data at Nike, led VR broadcasting for Intel at the Japan 2020 Olympics, and driven large-scale marketing campaigns for Walmart, Levi’s, and Nasdaq. A TEDx speaker on enterprise VR, Lee is currently authoring a book on generative AI and delving into splinternet theory and data privacy as new tech laws unfold across the US.

Lee Kebler on LinkedIn

Key Discussion Topics:

• 00:00 Intro
• 00:33 The Shift in AI Conversation: From Productivity to Humanity
• 05:15 OpenAI's Financial Crisis and the Ad-Supported ChatGPT Problem
• 11:31 Can AI Intentionally Give Wrong Answers to Keep You Engaged?
• 13:46 The Unexpected HVAC and Trades Shortage Fueling AI Infrastructure
• 16:34 How XR Technology Transfers Expert Knowledge to New Tradespeople
• 20:21 Meta's Metaverse Layoffs: Why Spatial Computing Is Still the Future
• 25:33 VRChat Breaks Records While Gaming Embraces Living Worlds
• 26:28 Luxury Brands Return to Gaming with Coach and The Sims
• 28:08 Bethesda Revamps Fallout 76 After TV Show Success
• 32:31 Book Recommendations and Final Thoughts

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In this episode of TechMagic, hosts Cathy Hackl and Lee Kebler return from a holiday break to unpack the most important ideas and innovations from CES 2026. Cathy breaks down how the AI conversation has evolved beyond large language models into embodied AI, agentic systems, world models, and on-device intelligence. The discussion spans standout demos, from attention-aware robots and immersive VR experiences to smart wearables and biodegradable batteries. Cathy and Lee also question whether AI is solving real problems or becoming an innovation theatre. We end with a forward look at 2027 as a critical inflection point for AI devices from Apple, OpenAI, and Meta.

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Cathy Hackl Bio

Cathy Hackl is a globally recognized tech & gaming executive, futurist, and speaker focused on spatial computing, virtual worlds, augmented reality, AI, strategic foresight, and gaming platforms strategy. She’s one of the top tech voices on LinkedIn and is the CEO of Spatial Dynamics, a spatial computing and AI solutions company, including gaming.

Cathy has worked at Amazon Web Services (AWS), Magic Leap, and HTC VIVE and has advised companies like Nike, Ralph Lauren, Walmart, Louis Vuitton, and Clinique on their emerging tech and gaming journeys. She has spoken at Harvard Business School, MIT, SXSW, Comic-Con, WEF Annual Meeting in Davos 2023, CES, MWC, Vogue’s Forces of Fashion, and more.

Cathy Hackl on LinkedIn

Spatial Dynamics on LinkedIn

Lee Kebler Bio

Lee has been at the forefront of blending technology and entertainment since 2003, creating advanced studios for icons like Will.i.am and producing music for Britney Spears and Big & Rich. Pioneering in VR since 2016, he has managed enterprise data at Nike, led VR broadcasting for Intel at the Japan 2020 Olympics, and driven large-scale marketing campaigns for Walmart, Levi’s, and Nasdaq. A TEDx speaker on enterprise VR, Lee is currently authoring a book on generative AI and delving into splinternet theory and data privacy as new tech laws unfold across the US.

Lee Kebler on LinkedIn

Key Discussion Topics:

00:00 Intro: Welcome Back to Tech Magic in 2026

03:27 AI's Evolution: From Language Models to Embodied Intelligence

05:30 Glasses Galore: Meta Ray-Ban Displays and Wearable Utility

09:26 Robots Everywhere: From Laundry Folders to AI-Powered Lawnmowers

12:00 CES 2027 Inflection Point: Q3-Q4 2026 Device Announcements to Watch

16:11 Innovation Theater vs. Problem-Solving: Evaluating Real Tech Impact

18:21 Trinity Vehicle and Cool Concepts: NVIDIA and Will.i.am's AI-Powered EV

20:51 Biodegradable Paper Batteries: Flint's Sustainable Solution

23:04 XR Display Glasses and Next-Gen Wearables: X Real and Gaming Integration

24:01 Attention Labs: On-Device AI and Data Sovereignty in Robotics

27:53 Why On-Device AI Matters: Global Markets and Data Regulations

29:30 IXR Podcast Meetup: Felix and Paul's Interstellar Arc VR Experience

33:32 LEGO Smart Bricks: The Future of Educational Robotics

35:44 Final Thoughts: CES as Geekapalooza and Plans for 2027

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In this Greatest Hits episode of Tech Magic, hosts Cathy Hackl and Lee Kebler dive into the latest tech developments, from Meta's bold moves in AR to Apple's Vision Pro journey one year later. They highlight Meta's success with Ray-Ban AI glasses, Apple’s challenges in AR innovation, and how creators are evolving into media moguls. Cathy also interviews special guest Jeff Barrett, who shares insights on building sustainable creator careers, the rise of nano-influencers, and the global expansion of digital content platforms. Whether you’re into cutting-edge tech or the creator economy, this episode captures 2025’s emerging trends.

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Cathy Hackl Bio

Cathy Hackl is a globally recognized tech & gaming executive, futurist, and speaker focused on spatial computing, virtual worlds, augmented reality, AI, strategic foresight, and gaming platforms strategy. She’s one of the top tech voices on LinkedIn and is the CEO of Spatial Dynamics, a spatial computing and AI solutions company, including gaming.

Cathy has worked at Amazon Web Services (AWS), Magic Leap, and HTC VIVE and has advised companies like Nike, Ralph Lauren, Walmart, Louis Vuitton, and Clinique on their emerging tech and gaming journeys. She has spoken at Harvard Business School, MIT, SXSW, Comic-Con, WEF Annual Meeting in Davos 2023, CES, MWC, Vogue’s Forces of Fashion, and more.

Cathy Hackl on LinkedIn

Spatial Dynamics on LinkedIn

Lee Kebler Bio

Lee has been at the forefront of blending technology and entertainment since 2003, creating advanced studios for icons like will.i.am and producing music for Britney Spears and Big & Rich. Pioneering in VR since 2016, he has managed enterprise data at Nike, led VR broadcasting for Intel at the Japan 2020 Olympics, and driven large-scale marketing campaigns for Walmart, Levi’s, and Nasdaq. A TEDx speaker on enterprise VR, Lee is currently authoring a book on generative AI and delving into splinternet theory and data privacy as new tech laws unfold across the US.

Lee Kebler on LinkedIn

Jeff Barrett Bio

Jeff Barrett serves as the Chief Evangelist at the Shorty Awards, where he's been involved with the organization for 10 years. A former Shorty Award winner for Best Business Blogger, Barrett has evolved from a creator to an agency leader, demonstrating the possible progression within the creator economy. His journey began uniquely on MySpace and included creating a successful parody account on Twitter that inadvertently led to legitimate recognition in the marketing world. Barrett currently hosts the Shorty Awards show and runs a podcast called "It's No Fluke," which has produced over 130 episodes featuring leaders from major companies like Google, Meta, and the NFL.

Jeff Barrett on LinkedIn

Key Discussion Topics

• 00:00 - Intro & Tech News Overview
• 02:50 - The Future of American XR: Competition and Innovation
• 11:15 - Meta's Metaverse Strategy: Make or Break Year
• 28:18 - Apple Vision Pro: One Year Later
• 41:24 - Interview with Jeff Barrett: The Evolution of the Shorty Awards
• 47:32 - The Creator Economy: Trends and Future Growth
• 53:27 - Building Sustainable Creator-Brand Partnerships
• 01:02:34 - Creator Identity & Platform Evolution
• 01:07:55 - Final Thoughts & Media Recommendations

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In this Greatest Hits episode of TechMagic, host Cathy Hackl is joined by Samantha G Wolfe, founder of PitchFWD and NYU adjunct professor, to explore how AI and emerging tech are redefining relationships. From AI-generated love letters to dating in virtual environments, they examine the evolving boundaries between authentic connection and digital convenience. The duo discusses the ethics of emotional AI, the importance of human messiness, and the need for “non-AI pledges” in romance. Packed with Cathy’s real-world experiments and insightful commentary, this episode is essential for anyone navigating love, intimacy, and connection in a world increasingly shaped by technology.

What you will learn:

• How AI companions are being used beyond loneliness relief
• Why the "messiness" of human relationships remains valuable
• How to navigate the balance between technology-enhanced and authentic human connections in modern dating using Cathy’s Tech Intimacy Scale
• The emerging challenges of AI-generated messages in relationships
• Why creating "non-AI relationship pledges" might become important
• How spatial computing and 3D interactions could transform the future of digital dating and what Cathy’s building to disrupt this space
• Why human presence and in-person connections remain crucial

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Samantha G Wolfe Bio

Samantha G Wolfe is the founder of Pitch Forward and an adjunct professor at NYU, where she teaches pioneering courses on avatars, AI agents, and virtual beings. With a background in psychology, television, and emerging tech, Sam specializes in brand strategy for bleeding-edge technologies, helping visionary companies clearly articulate their value and future impact. Her expertise spans AI, spatial computing, XR, haptics, and metaverse innovation across 20+ industries. Known for her clarity, depth, and contagious enthusiasm, she bridges the gap between innovation and understanding through thought leadership, marketing strategy, and education, empowering the world to grasp the true potential of tomorrow’s tech.

Samantha G Wolfe on LinkedIn

Key Discussion Topics:

• 00:00 Welcome to Tech Magic: Special Episode on Tech, Love & Life
• 02:47 Dating in the Age of AI: Government Restrictions and Digital Romance
• 12:20 Beyond Loneliness: The Many Reasons People Use AI Companions
• 16:05 The Value of Human "Messiness" in Relationships
• 21:00 Reimagining Digital Dating Through 3D Presence
• 38:15 The Non-AI Relationship Pledge: Setting Digital Boundaries
• 44:53 The Tech Intimacy Scale: Finding Balance in Modern Love
• 50:20 Dating AI Chatbots: A Week-Long Experiment Preview
• 58:54 Closing Thoughts: The Future of Human Connection

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In this episode of TechMagic, hosts Lee Kebler and Adam Davis McGee unpack the rapid shifts transforming AI, hardware, and creative industries. Cathy is away this week and will be back in the new year. Lee and Adam explore how RAM manufacturers are pivoting away from consumer electronics toward AI, and how this will spike gaming and device prices in 2026, why Meta’s mixed-reality delays open the door for Google’s surprising partnership with Warby Parker, and how Google may be quietly edging ahead in the AI race. In the second half, Lee speaks with Ryan McMahan, who breaks down the legal and ethical storm surrounding AI-generated music. Together, they examine copyright grey zones, artist rights, and why AI is becoming more of an accelerant for creativity than a replacement for human artistry.

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Key Discussion Topics:

• 01:40: RAM Shortage Will Devastate Consumer Electronics Pricing in 2026
• 06:12: Meta's Mixed Reality Delay & the Battle Between Google and Meta
• 11:29: Why Google Will Win the AI Race Over OpenAI
• 23:52: AI Music Generation and the Copyright Crisis on Spotify
• 33:28: Meet Ryan McMahan: Artist Manager Fighting for Creator Rights
• 35:34: Blanco Brown's Story: From Platinum to Fighting AI
• 38:50: The First Major Artist Covers an AI-Generated Song
• 40:45: Understanding Covers vs. Derivatives in Copyright Law
• 45:51: AI as a Creative Tool, Not a Job Replacement
• 50:32: The Fast Fashion Problem in Modern Music Production
• 57:31: Independent Artists Need Representation at Policy Tables
• 01:01:45: Creative Industry Workers Share AI Concerns and Opportunities
• 01:04:17: Meta's Consent Prompt: Is Algorithmic Boost Tied to AI Training Permission?
• 01:05:59: Key Takeaways: AI, Copyright, and the Future of Creative Work

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In this episode of TechMagic, hosts Cathy Hackl and Lee Kebler explore how the future of AI is being shaped through hardware innovation happening around the world. They break down breakthroughs in autonomous vehicles, humanoid robots, and spatial computing, highlighting why hardware ownership now determines who controls data, training models, and long-term AI power. Cathy shares insights from her travels across Saudi Arabia and Qatar, while the hosts examine China’s accelerating hardware ecosystem, Gen Alpha’s rejection of “AI slop,” and the shift toward vision-action models. It’s a fast, global look at where AI is really advancing, and why it matters.

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Key Discussion Topics:

• [00:00] Intro
• [00:23] Saudi Arabia and Qatar are booming in tech and entertainment.
• [00:04:00] Formula One tech highlights the Abu Dhabi Championship showdown.
• [00:07:13] Autonomous racing vs. human drivers shows motorsports’ future.
• [00:10:23] NVIDIA's AlphaMoor offers open-source vision-language models.
• [00:14:23] Women often prefer autonomous vehicles to human drivers.
• [00:20:44] Owning hardware means owning data: the AI supremacy principle.
• [00:22:19] Global hardware innovations from Alibaba, Huawei, and ByteDance are under the radar.
• [00:26:51] "Human-authored" labels reveal widespread AI fatigue.
• [00:30:05] Gen Alpha rejects AI content, demanding authentic creations.
• [00:33:55] Copyright issues arise when sampling AI-generated music.
• [00:37:03] Cathy’s Middle East speaking tour and CES 2025 lineup updates.
• [00:39:33] Holiday spending is shifting to experiences over products.
• [00:42:14] Book picks: the future of storytelling and understanding people.
• [00:44:49] Gaming culture highlights: Dungeon Crawler Carl, FNAF 2, and Stranger Things.
• [00:46:34] Key takeaways: physical AI, hardware ownership, and authentic human connection.

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In this episode of TechMagic, hosts Cathy Hackl and Lee Kebler break down the biggest shifts shaping tech, entertainment, and personal branding. They explore emerging trends, from real-world experiences like Beastland, to the growing influence of spatial computing, and why authentic human content is becoming a premium as AI saturation rises. In the second half, Cathy sits down with David Cash, Founder and CSO of Cash Labs, Founder and Executive Producer of Catalyst Content Haus and Head of Marketing and acting CMO of DeLorean Labs, to discuss building a future-proof personal brand, repurposing content at scale, and why founders must take ownership of their digital presence now. Together, they reveal practical strategies for standing out and earning trust in an AI-driven media landscape.

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David Cash Bio:

David Cash is the Founder of Cash Labs and Catalyst, recognized as a leading force in bringing Web3 and emerging technologies to market. After a 12-year acting career and seven years running a production company, working on campaigns for brands like Brisk, Gaviscon, and Netflix, David became an early leader in Web3, authoring the first Master’s thesis on NFTs and producing Metaverse Fashion Week. Through Cash Labs, his work has driven billions of impressions and major revenue for global brands. His newest venture, Catalyst, helps executives create high-impact, future-ready content.

David Cash on LinkedIn

Key Discussion Topics:

• 00:00 Intro: Tech Magic Returns from the Middle East
• 00:03 Beastland: MrBeast's Pop-Up Amusement Park Phenomenon in Riyadh
• 00:08 Apple Vision Pro & Real Madrid: The Future of Immersive Sports Content
• 00:12 Tim Cook's Potential Departure and Apple's Need for Disruption
• 00:16 Meta Quest 3S at Costco for $200: The VR Hardware Game Heats Up
• 00:20 Meet David Cash: From Child Actor to Web3 Pioneer and Content Strategist
• 00:24 Why Business Leaders Must Own Their Content Strategy Now
• 00:27 Catalyst: Productizing Executive Content Creation Into a Luxury Service
• 00:30 How to Build a Personal Brand Session in One Day
• 00:33 The Dead Internet Theory: Why Authentic Voices Are Your Competitive Moat
• 00:36 Syndication Strategy: Turn One Piece of Content Into 1,000 Assets
• 00:37 Legacy Media Still Matters: Why Adweek and Vogue Amplify Personal Brands
• 00:40 The Evolution of Entertainment: From Broadway to Authentic Vlogging
• 00:43 Human-Crafted Content as Luxury: The OnlyFans to OnlyWalks Future
• 00:44 The Metaverse Isn't Web3: Redefining Virtual Spaces and Digital Identity
• 00:48 How Your Content Choices Today Shape Your XR Future Tomorrow
• 00:52 AI as a Tool: When to Use Generative Tech and When to Create Authentically
• 00:53 The "Human Authored" Label: Why AI Slop Is Making Credibility Scarce
• 00:57 Silicon Valley's Billion-Dollar Paradox: Oracle, SoftBank, and Unsustainable Bets
• 01:00 Hardware Matters: Why Lam Research Is the Invisible Infrastructure Winner
• 01:03 Key Takeaways: Personal Branding, Content Strategy, and the Human Edge

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