Welcome back for the final episode in our series about the ADULT learning framework: Act, Do, Understand, Live, and Thrive. Today, we're joined by Victoria Schurter to uncover what it means to not just survive, but create a deeply satisfying life.

In this episode, we talk about why so many of us are stuck in the cycle of chasing happiness, and why joy is a totally different (and way more satisfying) pursuit.

Jonathan opens up about the difference between dopamine-driven distraction and the kind of joy that’s rooted in something deeper. We get into how identity, faith, and even our relationships shape what we’re really chasing—and how we can stop settling for shallow happiness when we’re wired for so much more.

You’ll hear us wrestle through:

• What joy actually is (and isn’t)
• Why happiness can feel so empty
• How we can be both content and longing at the same time
• What this means for how we live day to day

This conversation felt like a reset for us, and we hope it does the same for you.

01:48 Deep Dive into the Concept of Thriving

04:08 The Challenges and Rewards of Thriving

12:46 Embracing Fear and Failure as Part of Growth

19:04 The Importance of Community and Service

22:08 Reflecting on When We Fail to Thrive

Learn more about Unbound: https://beunbound.us/

Hosts: Jonathan Brush, David Rethemeyer

Producer: Kyle Hill