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In this episode, Kathy and Traci go deep down the rabbit hole of Psi Savant Wolf Messing, the Soviet campaign to perfect and weaponize psychic powers, what the CIA knew about this, and more. They also take some detours into everything from alien encounters on Cape Cod, to NJ drone sightings, dogs chasing deer, and “the Italian Goodbye.”

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For more on Traci Stein, her other podcast, audio programs and more, visit:

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To read the declassified CIA report, "Soviet and Eastern European Parapsychology Research," visit: https://www.cia.gov/readingroom/docs/NSA-RDP96X00790R000100010041-2.pdf

To read the New York Times article referenced in this episode, visit: https://www.nytimes.com/1977/06/19/archives/emigre-tells-of-research-in-soviet-in-parapsychology-for-military.html

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