Shannon Popkin is an author, speaker, Bible teacher, and host of the Live Like It’s True podcast. Shannon has spent years helping people engage Scripture in practical ways, and her latest work explores one of the habits that quietly damages our relationships more than we realize: judgment.

In this conversation, we talk about why judgment feels so unavoidable. Why do we feel judged so often? Why are we so quick to judge others? Shannon unpacks the hidden roots of our critical thoughts—from comparison and insecurity to assumptions we don't even realize we're making.

We also wrestle with an important question: Why do Christians sometimes seem especially judgmental? Shannon explains the crucial difference between discernment and judgment, and offers practical ways to replace criticism with curiosity, compassion, and grace.

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Kaitlin would like to issue a correction: Caroline has, in fact, read Harry Potter. The Puerto Rico Song. A dead body is found in our town. Childhood brawls. A man with one eye hits on Caroline. Emily might be the most useful of the sisters in pretty much any scenario.

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Kaitlin and Scott have a heart to heart about all of Kaitlin's burning (pun intended) questions about firefighters, unpack an extremely succesful week of VBS, and talk honestly about what it's like to work together.

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At 16, Kaitlin unknowingly ends up on a date with her driving instructor. Scott reallllyyyyy loves motorcycles. Kaitlin reallllllyyyyy does not. Honestly, there's a lot of driving stories in this one so buckle up (hehe).

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Kaitlin begins her week with an emergency appendectomy. What started as "it's probably nothing" quickly turned into...well, something.

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Emily finally caves and starts making sour dough bread. Making peace with the fact that somehow someone is always going to be offended by something. Kaitlin routinely eats food on real plates in the car. Is Emily becoming a tradwife? How to possibly know whats good for you and what is killing you in an era where the is constant conflicting information Should you be able to use screen time for kids as a tool?

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Kaitlin opens up about having a full-blown menty B, the joys (and horrors) of potty training, and addresses the hairstylist haters that weighed in on last week's SWEpisode. Meanwhile, Scott learns what might be the most shocking fact he's ever discovered about his own wife (and somehow this information has never come up before?).

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Allison Byxbe is a writer, speaker, and advocate for honest conversations about grief, healing, and faith in the midst of life’s hardest realities.

Allison shares her story of walking through profound loss and heartbreak, including her sister’s stillbirth, her own miscarriage, a difficult genetic diagnosis for her son, and seasons of struggle within her marriage. She opens up about the questions, fears, and grief that accompanied those experiences, and the slow, often messy journey toward healing.

One of the most powerful parts of Allison’s story is the role journaling played along the way. We talk about how putting words to our pain can help us process emotions instead of suppressing them, why reflection is such an important part of healing, and how journaling can create space for God to meet us in our hardest seasons.

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