Catherine Renfro is an author, pastor’s wife, mom, and the National Director of Women’s Evangelism at the North American Mission Board. Catherine is the author of Hope, Hurt, and Healing: Experiencing Jesus in the Wake of Suicide, a book born out of profound loss.

Catherine shares the story of losing her brother to suicide and invites us into the aftermath—the grief and the questions she wrestled with. She speaks honestly about questioning God and navigating the long road toward healing.

Catherine has used her story to help others who are walking through similar loss. She walks us through how to better show up for friends and loved ones grieving the death of someone they love. This is a hope-filled conversation for anyone who has experienced lossand carries unanswered questions.

Catherine's Book, Hope, Hurt, and Healing: https://amzn.to/4hQ0jKf

Catherine’s Website: https://www.catherinerenfro.com/

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Follow the Chicola sisters on what should've been a normal evening for concert-going Jonas Brothers fans...but spiraled into a night of wreckless decisions, magical elves, and nearly being mauled by an angry mob.

Godspeed, SWEople.

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Kevan Chandler is an author, speaker, and the voice behind We Carry Kevan and The Hospitality of Need. Kevan lives with muscular atrophy, a rare neuromuscular disease. Through his writing and storytelling he invites people into a countercultural way of seeing need, dependence, and community, not as weakness, but as gift.

Kevan shares his story of growing up with muscular atrophy and how, over time, he’s learned that serving others and being served are not opposites—they’re intertwined. We talk about how our needs can become doorways into deeper relationships, the difference between simply asking for help and intentionally inviting people into our need, and how it’s possible to give and receive at the same time.

This conversation is thoughtful, challenging, and a reminder that vulnerability around our needs can lead to deeper connection with others.

The Hospitality of Need

We Carry Kevan (Book)

We Carry Kevan Organization

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