Emily and Matt are vindicated about the existance of water table fountains. Is Ariana Grande okay? Is it okay for society to be commenting on women’s bodies if they’re underweight? The 1 tillion different terms for women’s haircuts and styles that hairstylists are absolutely making up. How long is too long to wear an item of clothing before deciding to return it? Kaitlin has a ruin with a librarian. Matt doesn’t understand how libraries work. Does renting everyday clothes make any sense? The Black Tux is the best. Norah faces her first walking related injury (don’t worry, she’s okay…Emily? Not so much). Go Knicks!

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Hanna Seymour is an author, speaker, Bible teacher, and a passionate advocate for helping people experience God in everyday life. Hanna encourages women to let go of perfectionism and embrace simple, sustainable rhythms that deepen their relationship with Jesus.

In this conversation, we talk about why so many Christians carry shame around the idea of having a “quiet time” and how that shame can actually keep us from connecting with God. Hanna shares practical, attainable ways to grow your faith, even in busy seasons, and reminds us that spiritual disciplines were never meant to be another item on our to-do list.

We also discuss a freeing truth: there is nothing we can do to make God love us more. We don’t earn His affection through Bible reading plans, prayer streaks, or perfect spiritual habits. Instead, those practices simply help us draw closer to the God who already loves us completely.

Finally, Hanna unpacks how the science of habit formation can work alongside spiritual growth, helping us create rhythms that are life-giving rather than guilt-inducing. If you've ever felt like you're failing at your faith because you can't seem to "do enough," this conversation is the breath of fresh air you've been looking for.

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Everyday Spiritual Habits Book: https://amzn.to/3SarXc3

The Weekly One: https://hannaseymour.com/the-weekly-one

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Kaitlin’s relationship with ChatGPT has become her greatest source of encouragement. Matt and Emily don’t quite understand the workings of a child’s water table toy. Kaitlin is experiencing a slight identity crisis as she’s starting to transition out of the early years of motherhood. Scott and Kaitlin go to their nephew’s wedding in Minnesota..congrats Grant and Lily! New Jersey’s fast-paced hustle culture is exhausting, it might be time to buy a family compound in the middle of nowhere. We tackle some big questions: Can kids see spiritual beings? Should middle schoolers have phones? Is it gross to sleep in the same shirt you wore all day? Slow-summer Kaitlin is beginning to emerge. Scott goes shopping to relieve stress while Kaitlin witnesses a cat viciously murder a chipmunk.

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