Shannon Popkin is an author, speaker, Bible teacher, and host of the Live Like It’s True podcast. Shannon has spent years helping people engage Scripture in practical ways, and her latest work explores one of the habits that quietly damages our relationships more than we realize: judgment.

In this conversation, we talk about why judgment feels so unavoidable. Why do we feel judged so often? Why are we so quick to judge others? Shannon unpacks the hidden roots of our critical thoughts—from comparison and insecurity to assumptions we don't even realize we're making.

We also wrestle with an important question: Why do Christians sometimes seem especially judgmental? Shannon explains the crucial difference between discernment and judgment, and offers practical ways to replace criticism with curiosity, compassion, and grace.

Kinda Judgy Book: https://amzn.to/4eXye3P

Kinda Judgy Quiz: https://kindajudgy.subscribepage.io/

Shannon's Website: https://www.shannonpopkin.com/

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Kaitlin would like to issue a correction: Caroline has, in fact, read Harry Potter. The Puerto Rico Song. A dead body is found in our town. Childhood brawls. A man with one eye hits on Caroline. Emily might be the most useful of the sisters in pretty much any scenario.

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Kaitlin and Scott have a heart to heart about all of Kaitlin's burning (pun intended) questions about firefighters, unpack an extremely succesful week of VBS, and talk honestly about what it's like to work together.

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