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  • From Condé Nast to Cannabis | Verena von Pfetten on Culture, Creativity & Copycats

    From Condé Nast to Cannabis | Verena von Pfetten on Culture, Creativity & Copycats
    Oct 17 2025
    In this episode, we sit down with Verena von Pfetten, co-founder of Gossamer, the trailblazing magazine and lifestyle brand for people who also smoke weed. Verena shares the story behind launching a brand in a taboo space, and how moments of joy, stillness, and intuition shaped her creative process. We explore her journey from food media (co-founding The Braiser and writing for Condé Nast Traveler and HuffPost) to reimagining cannabis culture through design, storytelling, and spiritual practice. She opens up about her microdosing regimen, her views on plant medicine, and why she believes weed deserves a more nuanced narrative than the outdated “stoner” stereotype. Verena also reflects on: The moment Gossamer was born and why it felt like a risk worth taking Her spiritual protocols and how meditation fuels creativity The ups and downs of building a brand in a stigmatized category Her thoughts on copycats and what it means to manifest with intention A poetic reflection on Lopez Island, gnomes, and making things quietly and thoughtfully Follow Verena on: Instagram: / gossamer Website: https://gossamer.co/ Book recs: Orbital by Samantha Harvey If you are in NYC, check out Pioneer Works and their endless events: https://pioneerworks.org/https://www.sage-sound.com/blogs/the-...https://themalin.co/journal/gossamer/https://www.cntraveler.com/stories/20... Thank you to our sponsors, Amelia Risk, and The Big Favorite!
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    1 Std. und 17 Min.
  • Trading Fear for Faith | Vanessa Barboni Hallik on Building Another Tomorrow

    Trading Fear for Faith | Vanessa Barboni Hallik on Building Another Tomorrow
    Sep 30 2025
    This week, Isabelle and Eleanor sit down with Vanessa Barboni Hallik, founder of Another Tomorrow, for a candid conversation about leaving a high-powered finance career, navigating personal loss, and building a purpose-driven brand from the ground up. Vanessa shares how introspection, meditation, and a sabbatical led to the quiet birth of a company rooted in ethics and sustainability and why intention matters more than ever. Topics we cover: Quitting finance three times and why it was so hard to walk away Growing up in a “hippie, techy, academic, and artistic” household in the Midwest Her journey from ‘fear to faith’ through her journey as an entrepreneur Losing her mother to suicide and the long arc of healing and reflection The accidental birth of Another Tomorrow during a sabbatical Building a gold-standard brand rooted in ethics, transparency, and sustainability The power of intention and how Vanessa manifests her future Book recommendations: A Constellation of Vital Phenomena Find Another Tomorrow/Vanessa: Website - www.anothertomorrow.co IG - https://www.instagram.com/anothertomo... Thank you to our sponsors, ⁠Amelia Risk⁠ - get a Free audit by signing up through their site - and to ⁠The Big Favorite⁠ - Take 15% off your first order with code: SAYMORE15 The Big Favorite IG ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@thebigfavorite⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow us on IG ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@thesaymorepodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ / Follow us on Tiktok ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@thesaymorepodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Isabelle’s IG: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@theplantiful⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ El’s IG: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@the_elturner
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    56 Min.
  • From Waldorf School to Startup | Michael Robinov on Food & Finding Purpose in the Story

    From Waldorf School to Startup | Michael Robinov on Food & Finding Purpose in the Story
    Sep 16 2025
    In this episode of The Say More Podcast, co-hosts Eleanor Turner and Isabelle Steichen sit down with Michael Robinov, co-founder and CEO of Farm to People, a radically local food company reshaping how New Yorkers connect with farmers, chefs, and their own kitchens. We explore: The joyful spark behind Farm to People’s inception—and why creative ideas often emerge from moments of ease What Waldorf education taught him about autonomy, imagination, and holistic thinking—and how it shaped his approach to business and life Growing up in NYC, dropping out of Tisch, and trusting intuition over credentials Why regenerative farming and local food systems aren’t just buzzwords—they’re central to Michael’s purpose What it’s really like to build a business with your father and your partner (spoiler: it’s messy, meaningful, and deeply rewarding) How customer feedback drives innovation—and why listening is Michael’s north star The role travel played in launching FTP, and why it still fuels his creativity Whether an IPO or a national expansion is on the horizon—and what’s next for Farm to People Michael’s story is a reminder that purpose-driven business can be scrappy and wildly impactful. Book/podcast recs: Acquired: Deep dives into iconic companies that broke the mold—like Costco, Nike, and Berkshire Hathaway. Michael Robinov loves how it showcases businesses that were aberrations of their time, yet built on enduring principles. Think Again by Adam Grant A guide to rethinking assumptions, embracing curiosity, and staying mentally flexible—especially relevant for leaders building adaptive, values-driven companies. No Rules Rules by Reed Hastings & Erin Meyer A behind-the-scenes look at Netflix’s radical culture of freedom and responsibility. A masterclass in rejecting convention and scaling through trust and innovation. No-Excuses Management by T.J. Rodgers A lesser-known but powerful book on building high-performance teams through clear targets, bonus structures, and metric-driven accountability. Rodgers’ approach blends hard business fundamentals with entrepreneurial grit. Connect with Michael on Instagram Follow FtP on Instagram and online Thank you to our sponsors, Amelia Risk - get a Free audit by signing up through their site - and to The Big Favorite - Take 15% off your first order with code: SAYMORE15 The Big Favorite IG ⁠⁠⁠⁠@thebigfavorite⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow us on IG ⁠⁠⁠⁠@thesaymorepodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠ / Follow us on Tiktok ⁠⁠⁠⁠@thesaymorepodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠ Isabelle’s IG: ⁠⁠⁠⁠@theplantiful⁠⁠⁠⁠ El’s IG: ⁠⁠⁠⁠@the_elturner
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    1 Std. und 1 Min.
  • How to Be an Owner, Not a Renter | Babba Rivera on Authenticity, Heritage & Bold Moves

    How to Be an Owner, Not a Renter | Babba Rivera on Authenticity, Heritage & Bold Moves
    Sep 5 2025
    In this episode of Say More, Eleanor and Isabelle sit down with Babba Rivera—founder of the award-winning clean hair care brand Ceremonia, former Uber exec, and a trailblazing Latina entrepreneur reshaping the beauty industry. Babba shares her remarkable journey from growing up in Sweden’s immigrant neighborhoods to launching a purpose-driven brand rooted in heritage, wellness, and authenticity. This conversation is a masterclass in manifesting bold moves, dismantling limiting beliefs, and building businesses that reflect your highest values. What we covered in this episode: Growing up in Sweden with Chilean immigrant parents How Babba navigated language barriers, cultural identity, and early ambition Her leap from Uber Sweden to NYC—and the mindset behind big life decisions The power of authenticity and how passion creates unexpected opportunities Why generosity and helping others are central to her leadership philosophy The insight that sparked Ceremonia: “Hair care” vs. styling products Balancing motherhood and entrepreneurship with 4 kids What success feels like now—and how it aligns with her values Links & Resources Ceremonia on IG and online – Babba’s clean hair care brand https://www.instagram.com/myceremonia/?hl=en Follow Babba on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/babba/?hl=en TV show rec: Common Side Effects The Tao of Founders by Guillaume Racine Thank you to our Sponsors: Amelia Risk - ⁠⁠https://ameliarisk.com/⁠⁠ The Big Favorite - ⁠⁠thebigfavorite.com⁠⁠ get 15% off your first order with code: SAYMORE15 The Big Favorite IG ⁠⁠⁠@thebigfavorite⁠⁠⁠ Follow us on IG ⁠⁠⁠@thesaymorepodcast⁠⁠⁠ / Follow us on Tiktok ⁠⁠⁠@thesaymorepodcast⁠⁠⁠ Isabelle’s IG: ⁠⁠⁠@theplantiful⁠⁠⁠ El’s IG: ⁠⁠⁠@the_elturner
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    47 Min.
  • Lorna Davis on Finding Purpose Beyond "More, More, More"

    Lorna Davis on Finding Purpose Beyond "More, More, More"
    Aug 19 2025
    In this transformative episode, Lorna Davis—former CEO of Danone North America and trailblazer of the B Corp movement—invites us into a conversation about what it really means to lead, live, and grow through the lens of radical interdependence. From her upbringing in South Africa to her global career across seven countries and five continents, Lorna shares why she believes that heroism is outdated—and that meaningful change depends on our willingness to rely on one another. This isn’t just about leadership. It’s about building lives, organizations, and societies that thrive on trust, empathy, and purpose. TED Talk, A Guide to Collaborative Leadership: https://www.ted.com/speakers/lorna_davis Books: It's That Simple, Mavis Karn; Raising Hare, Chloe Dalton; Memorial Day, Geraldine Brooks; Consolations, David White; Eckhart Tolle’s work Please support the Rhino's at Care For Wild: https://careforwild.co.za/ Thank you to our Sponsors:Amelia Risk - ⁠https://ameliarisk.com/⁠ The Big Favorite - ⁠thebigfavorite.com⁠ get 15% off your first order with code: SAYMORE15 The Big Favorite IG ⁠⁠@thebigfavorite⁠⁠ Follow us on IG ⁠⁠@thesaymorepodcast⁠⁠ / Follow us on Tiktok ⁠⁠@thesaymorepodcast⁠⁠ Isabelle’s IG: ⁠⁠@theplantiful⁠⁠ El’s IG: ⁠⁠@the_elturner
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    1 Std. und 5 Min.
  • Jeni Britton on Creativity, Ownership, and Fiber

    Jeni Britton on Creativity, Ownership, and Fiber
    Jul 31 2025
    In this conversation, Eleanor and Isabelle sit down with Jeni Britton—entrepreneur, artist, and founder of the iconic Jeni’s Splendid Ice Cream and her new brand, Floura, which is the most diverse fiber bar on the market. Jeni shares her path from struggling art student to industry visionary, diving deep into the emotional and creative roots of her journey. From her early days running “Scream,” to building Jeni's into a national brand, to stepping away and starting over, this episode explores reinvention, curiosity, and the power of slowing down, synchronicity, and building businesses that reflect your soul. In This Episode, They Cover: Jeni’s unconventional childhood and how it shaped her boldness Why she dropped out of college and knew she’d be her own boss Creative burnout and knowing when to walk away Lessons learned through failure—not success Launching Floura and why she’s obsessed with fiber and food systems How motherhood fits into the founder experience Why she says Lord of the Rings is the best business book she's ever read And why “creativity is finding efficiencies”—a mindset every founder needs Resources Mentioned: Floura: https://www.floura.com/ Jeni’s substack: https://substack.com/@jenibritton Books Jeni likes: The Leaves of Grass by Walt Whitman,The Apothecary's Wife by Karen Bloom Gevirtz and The Mayflower by Nathaniel Philbrick Instagram: @jenibrittonbauer Thank you to our Sponsors:Amelia Risk - https://ameliarisk.com/ The Big Favorite - thebigfavorite.com get 15% off your first order with code: SAYMORE15 The Big Favorite IG ⁠@thebigfavorite⁠ Follow us on IG ⁠@thesaymorepodcast⁠ / Follow us on Tiktok ⁠@thesaymorepodcast⁠ Isabelle’s IG: ⁠@theplantiful⁠ El’s IG: ⁠@the_elturner
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    1 Std. und 11 Min.
  • The Power of Timing, Luck, & Purpose with Zoe Paknad

    The Power of Timing, Luck, & Purpose with Zoe Paknad
    Feb 20 2025
    Join us for an enlightening conversation with Zoe Paknad, the visionary founder of Goldune, as we delve into the world of sustainable retail. Discover Zoe's inspiring journey in creating a company that makes sustainability approachable and accessible. She shares the triumphs and challenges of her mission to transform consumer habits and offers insights into the future of eco-friendly products, and reveals what she’s up to today with First Rodeo and more! Zoe’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/zoe-paknad Zoe’s substack First Rodeo: https://1strodeo.substack.com/ Thank you to our sponsor dash.fi ! Dash.Fi provides businesses with a card product that allows you to scale your advertising campaigns: Daily limits up to $3M a day Flawless card authorisation due to our Mastercard backing. Up to 3% cashback on all of your digital advertising spend. 3% cashback and 5.3% APY. Net 60 card to extend payment terms at 1% fee Thank you also to our sponsor, The Big Favorite! The Big Favorite provides simple, versatile, and plastic-free pima cotton base layers that empower you to prioritize you. The Big Favorite website: https://thebigfavorite.com/ The Big Favorite IG: @thebigfavorite Follow us on IG @thesaymorepodcast / Follow us on Tiktok @thesaymorepodcast Isabelle’s IG: @theplantiful El’s IG: @the_elturner
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    1 Std. und 13 Min.
  • Altruism in Action with Eva Goicochea of Maude

    Altruism in Action with Eva Goicochea of Maude
    Jan 30 2025
    Welcome to episode 5 of the Say More Podcast. Today, we have a very special guest with us, Eva Goicochea. Eva is the brilliant mind behind Maude, a modern sexual wellness company that’s redefining intimacy and self-care. With a background in healthcare and brand strategy, Eva has been a trailblazer in creating products that prioritize simplicity, quality, and inclusivity. In this episode, we dive deep into Eva’s background, and what led her to ultimately start Maude. Maude website: https://getmaude.com/ Maude IG: https://www.instagram.com/getmaude/ Eva IG: https://www.instagram.com/evagoicochea/ Thank you to our sponsor dash.fi ! Dash.Fi provides businesses with a card product that allows you to scale your advertising campaigns: Daily limits up to $3M a day Flawless card authorisation due to our Mastercard backing. Up to 3% cashback on all of your digital advertising spend. 3% cashback and 5.3% APY. Net 60 card to extend payment terms at 1% fee Thank you also to our sponsor, The Big Favorite! The Big Favorite provides simple, versatile, and plastic-free pima cotton base layers that empower you to prioritize you. The Big Favorite website: https://thebigfavorite.com/ The Big Favorite IG: @thebigfavorite Follow us on IG @thesaymorepodcast / Follow us on Tiktok @thesaymorepodcast Isabelle’s IG: @theplantiful El’s IG: @the_elturner
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    1 Std. und 7 Min.