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Say More

Say More

Von: Eleanor Turner & Isabelle Steichen
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Say More is a podcast that delves into the 'why' behind successful entrepreneurs and creators. We believe true success stems from aligning personal passion, skills, and goals with your business, not just tactical execution. In interviews, we go beyond just building a business to explore the hearts and minds of founders, builders, and creators to prove our hypothesis and establish the throughlines of success and longevity. Management & Leadership Ökonomie
  • From Condé Nast to Cannabis | Verena von Pfetten on Culture, Creativity & Copycats
    Oct 17 2025
    In this episode, we sit down with Verena von Pfetten, co-founder of Gossamer, the trailblazing magazine and lifestyle brand for people who also smoke weed. Verena shares the story behind launching a brand in a taboo space, and how moments of joy, stillness, and intuition shaped her creative process. We explore her journey from food media (co-founding The Braiser and writing for Condé Nast Traveler and HuffPost) to reimagining cannabis culture through design, storytelling, and spiritual practice. She opens up about her microdosing regimen, her views on plant medicine, and why she believes weed deserves a more nuanced narrative than the outdated “stoner” stereotype. Verena also reflects on: The moment Gossamer was born and why it felt like a risk worth taking Her spiritual protocols and how meditation fuels creativity The ups and downs of building a brand in a stigmatized category Her thoughts on copycats and what it means to manifest with intention A poetic reflection on Lopez Island, gnomes, and making things quietly and thoughtfully Follow Verena on: Instagram: / gossamer Website: https://gossamer.co/ Book recs: Orbital by Samantha Harvey If you are in NYC, check out Pioneer Works and their endless events: https://pioneerworks.org/https://www.sage-sound.com/blogs/the-...https://themalin.co/journal/gossamer/https://www.cntraveler.com/stories/20... Thank you to our sponsors, Amelia Risk, and The Big Favorite!
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    1 Std. und 17 Min.
  • Trading Fear for Faith | Vanessa Barboni Hallik on Building Another Tomorrow
    Sep 30 2025
    This week, Isabelle and Eleanor sit down with Vanessa Barboni Hallik, founder of Another Tomorrow, for a candid conversation about leaving a high-powered finance career, navigating personal loss, and building a purpose-driven brand from the ground up. Vanessa shares how introspection, meditation, and a sabbatical led to the quiet birth of a company rooted in ethics and sustainability and why intention matters more than ever. Topics we cover: Quitting finance three times and why it was so hard to walk away Growing up in a “hippie, techy, academic, and artistic” household in the Midwest Her journey from ‘fear to faith’ through her journey as an entrepreneur Losing her mother to suicide and the long arc of healing and reflection The accidental birth of Another Tomorrow during a sabbatical Building a gold-standard brand rooted in ethics, transparency, and sustainability The power of intention and how Vanessa manifests her future Book recommendations: A Constellation of Vital Phenomena Find Another Tomorrow/Vanessa: Website - www.anothertomorrow.co IG - https://www.instagram.com/anothertomo... Thank you to our sponsors, ⁠Amelia Risk⁠ - get a Free audit by signing up through their site - and to ⁠The Big Favorite⁠ - Take 15% off your first order with code: SAYMORE15 The Big Favorite IG ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@thebigfavorite⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow us on IG ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@thesaymorepodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ / Follow us on Tiktok ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@thesaymorepodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Isabelle’s IG: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@theplantiful⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ El’s IG: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@the_elturner
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    56 Min.
  • From Waldorf School to Startup | Michael Robinov on Food & Finding Purpose in the Story
    Sep 16 2025
    In this episode of The Say More Podcast, co-hosts Eleanor Turner and Isabelle Steichen sit down with Michael Robinov, co-founder and CEO of Farm to People, a radically local food company reshaping how New Yorkers connect with farmers, chefs, and their own kitchens. We explore: The joyful spark behind Farm to People’s inception—and why creative ideas often emerge from moments of ease What Waldorf education taught him about autonomy, imagination, and holistic thinking—and how it shaped his approach to business and life Growing up in NYC, dropping out of Tisch, and trusting intuition over credentials Why regenerative farming and local food systems aren’t just buzzwords—they’re central to Michael’s purpose What it’s really like to build a business with your father and your partner (spoiler: it’s messy, meaningful, and deeply rewarding) How customer feedback drives innovation—and why listening is Michael’s north star The role travel played in launching FTP, and why it still fuels his creativity Whether an IPO or a national expansion is on the horizon—and what’s next for Farm to People Michael’s story is a reminder that purpose-driven business can be scrappy and wildly impactful. Book/podcast recs: Acquired: Deep dives into iconic companies that broke the mold—like Costco, Nike, and Berkshire Hathaway. Michael Robinov loves how it showcases businesses that were aberrations of their time, yet built on enduring principles. Think Again by Adam Grant A guide to rethinking assumptions, embracing curiosity, and staying mentally flexible—especially relevant for leaders building adaptive, values-driven companies. No Rules Rules by Reed Hastings & Erin Meyer A behind-the-scenes look at Netflix’s radical culture of freedom and responsibility. A masterclass in rejecting convention and scaling through trust and innovation. No-Excuses Management by T.J. Rodgers A lesser-known but powerful book on building high-performance teams through clear targets, bonus structures, and metric-driven accountability. Rodgers’ approach blends hard business fundamentals with entrepreneurial grit. Connect with Michael on Instagram Follow FtP on Instagram and online Thank you to our sponsors, Amelia Risk - get a Free audit by signing up through their site - and to The Big Favorite - Take 15% off your first order with code: SAYMORE15 The Big Favorite IG ⁠⁠⁠⁠@thebigfavorite⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow us on IG ⁠⁠⁠⁠@thesaymorepodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠ / Follow us on Tiktok ⁠⁠⁠⁠@thesaymorepodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠ Isabelle’s IG: ⁠⁠⁠⁠@theplantiful⁠⁠⁠⁠ El’s IG: ⁠⁠⁠⁠@the_elturner
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    1 Std. und 1 Min.
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