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In this episode of the Canyon Pathways Podcast, Sherman Bradley sits down with brother Andy Mburu, a pastor, youth leader, and apologist from Kenya, to talk about something we often misunderstand: passion.

For many of us—especially in leadership—passion can get confused with performance. But what if passion isn’t about hype or hustle, but about what you’d still do for free because it’s written on your soul?

Andy shares his story of discovering purpose through suffering, learning to listen to the Holy Spirit, and shifting from debating others to loving them. Together, we explore the beauty and tension of working with the next generation—how cultural gaps, questioning authority, and even grief can become sacred spaces of transformation when we approach them through the lens of sonship, identity, and relationship.

This episode is a vulnerable conversation about purpose, patience, and the process of becoming. It’s a reminder that while suffering is guaranteed, we follow a God who bleeds—and invites us to walk with Him through it all.

Key Takeaways

• Passion is often misunderstood. It’s not about hype—it’s about what you’d endure for the sake of love.
• Our purpose is rooted in identity. You can’t know what you’re called to do until you know whose you are.
• We are not called to win arguments—but to win people. Love requires listening, not just talking.
• Youth ministry demands humility. The next generation needs space to ask questions and wrestle with truth.
• Self-awareness is hard—but holy. Facing our shadows is where growth begins.
• Suffering doesn’t mean God is absent. It may be the place He speaks most clearly.
• Patience is part of passion. Miracles often unfold across generations, not overnight.
• Community is essential. Healing happens in the presence of others, not in isolation.

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