In this episode, Sam Bell speaks with Sophie Vo about bringing more of the whole human into business: heart, healing, responsibility, joy, intuition and higher consciousness.

Sophie has spent more than 20 years in technology, entrepreneurship, games and leadership. Now, through ORIN and her wider work, she supports leaders and women to come back to their own truth, voice and power. This conversation explores what becomes possible when business can hold more than strategy and execution. It can also hold healing, love, self-mastery, connection and the unseen dimensions that shape how people build.

Content note: this conversation includes brief references to plant medicine.

Thank you to Ludovic Bodin for introducing Sam and Sophie.

This episode explores:
• Joy as a daily practice
• Women’s leadership, sisterhood and returning to yourself
• Healing, safety and going deeper than the mind
• Business as a responsibility, not only a vehicle for achievement
• Bridging the physical business world with the more invisible world
• Love in leadership, emotional self-mastery and conscious founders
• Human Design, Enneagram, plant medicine and tools that help us understand ourselves
• Vulnerability, multidimensionality and being more fully yourself in public

Guest bio
Sophie Vo is a leadership transformation coach, founder of ORIN, and former tech and gaming leader. She has over 20 years of experience as a tech leader and coach, and has guided more than 200 leaders through transformative journeys. Sophie has studied with teachers of transformation including Mezaelle, Satya, Quantum Soul Academy and Homaya.

In 2024, Sophie made a complete transition to dedicate herself to bringing greater consciousness into leadership and business, restoring integrity, vitality and balance to the world.

Guest links:
• Sophie Vo: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sophie-vo-riseandplay/
• ORIN: https://www.orinjourney.com/
• About ORIN and Sophie: https://www.orinjourney.com/about
• Rise and Play: https://riseandplay.substack.com/

Conversation references:
• Ludovic Bodin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ludovicbodin
• Human Design: https://www.mybodygraph.com/
• Enneagram Institute: https://www.enneagraminstitute.com/

Chapters:
00:00 Welcome to Sophie Vo
01:30 Joy as a daily practice
03:28 Women, retreats and returning to yourself
08:16 Dance, voice and creative expression
10:31 Safety, healing and going deeper than the mind
14:27 Conscious business and founders’ responsibility
25:45 Bridging business with the invisible world
30:08 Human Design, Enneagram and self-understanding
39:11 Multidimensionality, vulnerability and being fully yourself

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Credits:
Hosted by Samantha (Sam) Bell in Kiama and Berlin, 24 April, 2026.
Produced at the Kiama office, 24 April - 14 May, 2026.

Natural Genius Podcast https://naturalgenius.com.au

In this episode, Sam Bell speaks with Tina Köstler about tantra as a practice of presence, coming back into the body, and restoring access to pleasure, intuition, connection and aliveness.

Tina shares her shift from high-performing startup life into embodiment, intimacy coaching and tantric practice. Together, Sam and Tina explore what happens when success becomes tunnel vision, how the body carries wisdom, and why tantra is far less about sexuality than many people assume.

This episode explores:
• Breath, movement and sound as routes back into the body
• Startup speed, tunnel vision and the cost of disconnection
• Tantra as presence, polarity and integration
• Masculine and feminine energy beyond gender
• Embodiment as capacity to hold discomfort, anger, joy and aliveness
• Womb wisdom, intuition and the body as an emotional archive
• Finding your own path through deeper listening

Important note:
This conversation includes brief personal reflection on psychedelic experience. Laws and clinical frameworks vary by location. This episode is for general information only and is not medical, mental health or legal advice, or a recommendation to use any substance or treatment. Please seek qualified professional advice and follow the laws where you live.

Guest bio:
Tina Köstler is an intimacy and embodiment coach, tantra facilitator and founder of TinaKoestler.com. After years in high-performance startup environments, including senior operations roles at Choco, Tina now works with women, men and couples to support embodiment, intimacy, emotional release, and deeper connection with the body.

Guest links:
• Tina Köstler: https://tinakoestler.com
• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tina-k%C3%B6stler-8a025880/
• Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/tina.koestler

Conversation reference:
• David Stancel's Natural Genius: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2yPy6_tYHYY
• Network School: https://ns.com/samanthaleebell/invite

Chapters:
00:00 Welcome to Tina Köstler
01:00 Breath, movement and sound
02:21 Startup speed, tunnel vision and listening to the body
07:27 Embodiment, intimacy coaching and what tantra means
12:20 Seeing potential and transmitting belief
22:34 Masculine, feminine and the balance of polarity
30:33 Embodiment, anger, discomfort and joy
45:23 Tantra as presence and weaving opposites
55:47 Endless ways of finding your path

Explore further:
Book a Lab: https://naturalgenius.com.au
Learn more about Sam: https://samanthabell.com.au
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Credits:
Hosted by Samantha (Sam) Bell in Violet Town and Bratislava, Slovakia, 30 March, 2026
Produced at the Violet Town and Kiama offices, 30 March - 12 May, 2026

Natural Genius Podcast https://naturalgenius.com.au

Maanasa Gopal lives life as a brilliant art project.

In this Natural Genius conversation, Maanasa talks about curiosity, discipline, dreams, planning, Antarctica, creative work, and the people who help us become brave enough to live fully.

Maanasa is the founder of SuperBlond, a brand strategist who has worked with TikTok, GoPro, Insta360, foodpanda and DraperTV, and a former biochemistry research scientist who has taken part in climate expeditions to Antarctica. She has travelled across all seven continents, minted the first NFT in Antarctica, made the world’s longest food delivery, and is now working on a three-part body of work documenting her 20s.

This episode explores:
- Why Maanasa feels genuinely excited to be alive
- How curiosity became a life thesis
- Dreaming of all seven continents with no money, network or strong passport
- Antarctica, risk, character and the magic of following dreams
- The importance of good paper, planning and 110 GSM
- Depression, grief, support and choosing life
- Her mother Shanti’s belief, courage and influence
- Network School, digital nomad life and returning to childhood curiosity
- Building with women, supporting dreams and documenting a life

Content note: this conversation includes discussion of severe depression, suicidal thoughts, betrayal, legal conflict, and mental health challenges. In Australia, Lifeline is 13 11 14. In an emergency call 000.

Guest links:
• Maanasa’s world: https://www.diaryofmaanasa.com/
• Maanasa’s Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/diaryofmaanasa/

Conversation mentions:
• Network School: https://ns.com/samanthaleebell/invite
• Frank Ocean’s Blonde: https://open.spotify.com/album/3mH6qwIy9crq0I9YQbOuDf
• Balaji’s Substack: https://balajis.com/

Chapters:
00:00 Welcome to Maanasa Gopal
01:03 Being excited to be alive
03:03 Following dreams and the magic around them
05:40 Seven continents, Antarctica and impossible dreams
08:45 SuperBlond, science, stationery and 110 GSM
11:20 Depression, loss and choosing life
13:43 Maanasa’s mother, courage and support
16:50 Rap, curiosity and finding her own voice
21:10 Network School, Bali and factory reset
26:24 The 20s Project: book, film series and album
28:34 Supporting women and other dreamers
30:32 Creative work, Frank Ocean and making art for yourself
34:19 Friendship, security and imperfect action
37:18 Her mother’s belief and taking risks
39:42 Family, time and cherishing people

Credits:
Hosted by Samantha (Sam) Bell in Kiama and Network School, 25 April 2026.
Produced at the Kiama office, 25 April - 11 May 2026.

Natural Genius: https://naturalgenius.com.au

In this episode, Sam Bell speaks with long-time friend Alistair Leaper about sailing, seamanship, trust, calm judgement, and the practical intelligence needed to keep boats and crews moving through changing conditions.

Alistair has spent much of his life around boats, engines, crews, long-haul sailing and ocean racing, including many Sydney to Hobart races. Now based in Mallorca, he works in the world of large yachts, where preparation, adaptability, mechanical understanding, crew dynamics and first-principles thinking all matter.

This is a conversation about the intelligence that shows up at sea: reading people quickly, staying calm under pressure, adapting to the environment, fixing what can be fixed, and knowing when to ask.

This episode explores:
• What sailing gives Alistair, from bay racing to ocean crossings
• Heavy weather sailing, challenge, and staying calm when conditions change
• Trust, responsibility, and quick judgement within a crew
• Leadership that does not need a title
• Conflict resolution, perspective-taking, and moving through tension
• Finding parts, solving problems, and using networks at sea
• Old-school mechanical grounding in a highly technological world
• Repair culture, practical skill, and why “there’s no such thing as a silly question”

Guest links:
• Alistair Leaper: https://www.facebook.com/alistair.leaper

Chapters:
00:02 Sam introduces Alistair Leaper
01:45 What sailing gives Alistair
03:13 Heavy weather, trust, and judgement at sea
05:55 Calm leadership without needing the title
08:52 Seeing both sides and resolving tension
15:05 Planning, sourcing, and adapting offshore
16:30 Technology, paper manuals, and first principles
18:47 Repair culture and making things work
20:45 “If you don’t know, ask”
21:25 Sam’s reflection and thanks

Explore further:
Book a Lab: https://naturalgenius.com.au
Learn more about Sam: https://samanthabell.com.au
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Credits:
Hosted by Samantha (Sam) Bell in Peregian Beach and Mallorca, 15 February, 2026
Produced at the Peregian Beach, Sunshine Motorway, Violet Town and Kiama offices, 15 February - 9 May, 2026

Natural Genius Podcast https://naturalgenius.com.au

In this episode, Sam Bell speaks with Christopher Treble about the richness of long conversations, the generosity of curious communities, and what it means to keep reinventing throughout life.

Chris reflects on Network School breakfasts, a poetry session that opened unexpected depth, business timing, mentoring young people, chief of staff roles, hiking, travel, and food. This is a conversation about staying open, gathering with people trying to do good, and noticing what becomes possible when we arrive without too much fixed intention.

This episode explores:
• Network School as an antidote to bad news
• Breakfast conversations, poetry, first languages, and unexpected vulnerability
• Reinvention, curiosity, and refreshing the “pot-bound” parts of life
• Mentoring, business timing, and helping ideas find their moment
• Chief of staff / operator-partner roles, stakeholder patience, and moving ideas through organisations
• Hiking, wild places, India, France, Bistro Livi, and gastronomic stories

Guest bio:
Christopher Treble is Principal at Fiducial Equities L.L.C. He has built a long career across business, real estate, investment and contribution in California, and brings the perspective of a grandfather, traveller, reader, and lifelong learner originally from the UK.

Guest links:
• Chris Treble: https://www.linkedin.com/in/christopher-treble-59590116/

Chris' suggestions for you:
• CEO Express "lists everything for business so makes a great dashboard": https://www.ceoexpress.com/
• "John Cochrane is an economist who makes sense": https://www.grumpy-economist.com/
• "Apollo is a fantastic Art Magazine": https://www.apollo-magazine.com/
• "Louise is really knowledgeable about [India] the country which she loves... the Wellness tab that has a plethora of places to go": https://www.louisenicholsonindia.com/
• "King of Kings" by Scott Anderson
• "The Black Family in Slavery and Freedom 1750-1925" by Herbert Gutman
• "The Night Manager" by John le Carré
• "1929" by Andrew Ross Sorkin
• "Breakneck" by Dan Wang

Conversation mentions:
• Network School: https://ns.com/samanthaleebell/invite
• Ivan Maltsev: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ivanxmaltsev/
• Corinne Proske's Natural Genius: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6kQg33UU62I
• VNTR Capital: https://www.instagram.com/vntrcapital
• Adam Tomas Pangelinan's Natural Genius: https://youtu.be/obwbhba3Y_g
• Bistro Livi: https://www.bistrolivi.com/
• Learn about the Chief of Staff role: https://www.mckinsey.com/capabilities/strategy-and-corporate-finance/our-insights/chief-of-staff-anatomy-of-the-role-in-eight-charts

Chapters:
00:00 Welcome and Chris intro
01:10 Network School breakfasts and big-hearted people
05:05 The poetry session and speaking in first languages
08:02 Curiosity, reinvention, VNTR and new contribution
11:48 The seven-year reinvention idea
15:14 Hiking, ageing, statistics and wild places
18:20 Mentoring, business, being yourself and timing
22:18 Chief of staff roles and helping ideas land
29:15 Food, travel, India, France and Bistro Livi

Explore further:
Explore Natural Genius: https://naturalgenius.com.au
Learn more about Sam: https://samanthabell.com.au
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Credits:
Hosted by Samantha (Sam) Bell in Violet Town and California, 24 February, 2026
Produced at the Violet Town and Kiama offices, 24 February - 8 May, 2026

Natural Genius Podcast https://naturalgenius.com.au

In this episode, Sam Bell speaks with coach, facilitator and somatics practitioner Allie Armitage about body wisdom, creative practice, ancestry and embodied leadership.

Allie shares how learning to listen to the body changed the way she relates to decision-making, creativity and trust. Together, Sam and Allie explore somatics as a way of accessing felt intelligence, practising differently, and noticing when something is alive, complete or being overworked.

This is a spacious conversation about practice, nervous system awareness, lineage, nature, music, imagination and the kind of leadership that begins with deeper listening.

This episode explores:
• Somatics, felt sense and the intelligence of the body
• Small practices as anchors in chaotic times
• Trusting body signals alongside rational thinking
• Ancestry, lineage and the stories held in the body
• Horses, nature and energetic communication
• Morning Pages, creative practice and returning to flow
• Refining work without overworking it
• Embodied leadership, conscious entrepreneurship and soul presence in business

Guest bio:
Allie Armitage is a coach, writer, facilitator and somatics practitioner. She draws from systems thinking, conscious entrepreneurship, somatics, creative practice and mysticism, weaving these with mindfulness and imagination to help people embody their aliveness, vision and innate worth.

Guest links:
• Allie Armitage: https://www.theembodiedvisionary.com
• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/alliearmitage
• Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/allie.armitage
• Allie’s writing, creating and upcoming events: https://allisonarmitage.substack.com/

Conversation references:
• Christian Duell's Natural Genius: https://open.spotify.com/episode/1GdoioUsgMWdFLDOb5Motl
• Bomba Estéreo - Astropical: https://open.spotify.com/album/21U3vjlzUXb642LW0Ventl
• Reyna Tropical: https://open.spotify.com/artist/7i6bx5ASeX99tjQYqahDXL
• My Grandmother’s Hands by Resmaa Menakem: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/34146782-my-grandmother-s-hands
• SAND documentary: https://scienceandnonduality.com/films/in-the-circle-of-life/
• Morning Pages / Julia Cameron’s The Artist’s Way: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/615570.The_Artist_s_Way
• Conscious Venture Labs in Baltimore: https://novellacenter.org/

Chapters:
00:00 Welcome and Christian’s introduction thread
01:29 Practice as an anchor in chaotic times
04:22 What somatics means
05:25 Learning to trust the body’s signals
12:03 Reaching the edge of familiar tools
13:50 Ancestry, lineage and embodied stories
24:31 Imagination, horses and embodied communication
32:36 Nature, Morning Pages and creative practice
35:24 Music, aliveness and creative expression
37:38 Refining, overworking and noticing what is alive
40:57 Closing reflections and future threads

Explore further:
Book a Lab: https://naturalgenius.com.au
Learn more about Sam: https://samanthabell.com.au
Subscribe to hear future episodes.

Credits:
Hosted by Samantha (Sam) Bell in Kiama and Baltimore, 22 April 2026
Produced at the Kiama office, 22 April - 7 May 2026
Natural Genius Podcast https://naturalgenius.com.au

In this episode, Sam Bell speaks with Adriana Basile about healing, relationships, self-trust and coming back into the body.

Adriana’s gift is lived wisdom. She has done the work she now helps others do: returning to herself, building stronger relationships, and creating a life with more love, ease, awareness and embodied truth. She brings empathy, awareness and practical tools because she has walked through her own healing and continues to practise what she shares.

This is a conversation about holding space, healing after divorce, creating safer relationships, easing burnout, and learning to live and lead from a more grounded place.

This episode explores:
• Beauty therapy, business and the early art of holding space
• Divorce, healing and learning to have a relationship with yourself
• How couples can reconnect through everyday micro moments
• Love, gratitude and the daily practices that create ease
• Women’s circles, storytelling and the power of being witnessed
• Masculine and feminine energy, relationships and safer spaces for men and women
• Burnout, nervous system regulation and coming back into the body

Guest bio:
Adriana Basile is the founder of Evolve. She is a holistic healing coach, relationship and intimacy coach, somatic practitioner, women’s circle facilitator and circle facilitation educator / mentor.

Through coaching, somatic bodywork, energy healing, sound healing, restorative yoga / massage, nervous system support, intimacy practices and parts work, Adriana supports people to move out of survival patterns and back into connection, clarity and choice.

Guest links:
• Adriana Basile: https://www.linkedin.com/in/adrianadbasile/
• Evolve: https://www.evolveadrianabasile.com.au
• Evolve Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/evolve.adrianabasile
• LUX Retreats: https://www.instagram.com/lux.retreats.aus

Conversation reference:
• Louise Hay: https://www.louisehay.com/

Chapters:
00:00 Introduction to Adriana
00:52 Beauty therapy, business and learning to hold space
06:50 Divorce, healing and finding a relationship with herself
10:57 Helping couples reconnect through micro moments
14:14 Love, ease and gratitude as daily practice
22:07 Family, strength and women’s circles
27:02 Men, relationships and masculine / feminine energy
31:04 Burnout, softening and coming back into the body

Explore further:
Book a Lab: https://naturalgenius.com.au
Learn more about Sam: https://samanthabell.com.au
Subscribe to hear future episodes.

Credits:
Hosted by Samantha (Sam) Bell in Kiama and Benalla, 25 April, 2026
Produced at the Kiama office, 25 April - 4 May, 2026

Natural Genius Podcast https://naturalgenius.com.au