High ticket closing is a skill in online business that can generate real income without starting a company, running ads, or building products. Why do some people choose closing over starting a business, and why has it quietly become one of the most valuable skills in entrepreneurship for people who want leverage without ownership?

Kayvon Kay talks with Ben and Jon about how closers convert qualified leads for businesses that already have demand. What makes companies trust closers with their revenue, and why does conviction matter more than scripts?

Closers work remotely, sell proven offers, and focus entirely on revenue while avoiding the operational headaches of running a company. For the right person, closing can outperform starting a business in speed, focus, and upside.

Find out more about Kayvon Kay here — https://www.kayvon.com/

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Timestamps:

00:00 — Joys of remote closing

01:20 — What is a closer?

05:45 — Closing vs traditional sales roles

12:15 — Do the hardwork and invest

25:27 — Don't shoot so low

31:20 — Will you do the work?

39:30 — Wealth Triangle

43:30 — Changes in closing

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This episode builds a 75 Hard framework for business. It is about discipline, consistency, and momentum instead of motivation and hacks. If you care about business, entrepreneurship, ecommerce, or building real mental toughness, this conversation is for you.

Business 75 Hard rules:

1. Daily ask — One direct revenue ask every day

2. Daily content — Post one piece of content every day on one channel

3. Stimulus free time — Intentional thinking time with no inputs

4. Track one KPI manually — On paper, every single day

5. Daily business cleanup — Remove friction and loose ends

6. Daily uncomfortable ask — Reach out to people who can move your business forward

What Business 75 Hard can produce in the 75 days:

75 asks more than most founders do in years

75 content posts that sharpen your thinking

75 uncomfortable asks that force breakthroughs

75 KPIs that remove guesswork

75 cleanups that systemize your business

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Timestamps:

00:25 — What is Andy Frisella's 75 Hard

11:50 — Idea to start Business 75 Hard

16:21 — Daily Ask

20:45 — Daily Content

27:55 — Stimulus-Free Time

35:16 — Track One KPI

41:15 — Daily Business Cleanup

44:53 — Daily Uncomfortable Ask

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New Year’s resolutions fuel a massive business built on optimism, failure, and predictable human behavior.

Ben and Jon walk through the hidden economy behind fitness apps, diet challenges, planners, habit trackers, and self improvement products that surge every January. They explain how platforms already know exactly when users will fail, why that failure is expected, and how it becomes a feature of the business model. Using real data from apps and search trends, they show how predictable drop off turns into recurring revenue year after year.

This is not a motivation episode. It is a business episode about incentives, psychology, and monetization. Once you see how these models work, you will recognize the same mechanics in subscriptions, ecommerce offers, challenges, and seasonal launches everywhere.

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Timestamps:

00:00 The economy built on New Year’s optimism

03:50 Why most resolutions fail by day 19

07:35 How apps know exactly when users quit

12:20 Vision boards and packaged motivation

17:10 Shock bracelets and forced habit change

22:40 Dry January and diet challenges explained

28:35 The real business behind self improvement

34:20 How this model applies to ecommerce

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Americans spend a trillion dollars on Christmas. Billions of it goes to one thing: pretending Santa is real. This is the Santa Industrial Complex. And it only exists because every parent in America agreed to tell the exact same lie.

Let's get to 100k subscribers so Ben can be Santa next year!

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Timestamps:

00:12 — Christmas rant

03:01 — Thanksgiving and Christmas in America compared to Australia

08:12 — The "Santa Industrial Complex"

12:44 — Christmas photos with Santa

18:52 — Digital Santa manipulation

26:26 — Reindeer rentals are real?

34:50 — New business ideas for Christmas?

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Ben sold his pet brand last year, and now he misses the cash flow. He's been considering buying an existing eCommerce business. Jon and Ben review three very different potential acquisition targets: a niche personal care brand selling shampoo bars on Amazon, a low-cost supplement brand that looks highly competitive, and a wooden sensory toy company with killer reviews.

Jon provides a crucial warning that buying an existing business can be "shittier than it looks" on paper. They discuss valuations, profit margins, ad backs, and the shocking $13 million asking price of a digital audio program business.

Finally, Ben reveals his big vision. Which one would you buy?

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Timestamps:

00:11 — Considering buying a business

01:05 — Warning about buying a business

02:31 — First buying option

11:39 — Second buying option

26:44 — Third buying option

37:06 — Plan to launch new store

39:24 — The final factor in the decision

50:33 — Buy PDF Business for 13 mil?

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This is a wild episode where the discussion focuses on a surprising source of business tactics: OF. The platform made $5 billion last year selling content that's free everywhere else.

The secret? Community, perceived access, and personalization driven by unscalable efforts and a detailed CRM.

Jon and Ben walk through the "FAKE" framework: Feedback, Access, Knowledge, and Exclusive. Tactics covered include: charging for personal critiques (the "Basic Rating Service" ), offering rush delivery or bulk discounts as upsells, using recurring subscriptions that rely on customer forgetfulness, and batch recording personalized voice and video messages for direct connection.

The true gold is the CRM: creators track an astonishing amount of data points on users to hyper-personalize interactions, from job titles and income to emotional triggers and spending patterns. The takeaway for your business is simple: collect data and use it for good.

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Timestamps:

00:00 — OF Revenue and Strategy Overview

03:57 — The F.A.K.E. Framework Introduction

06:16 — Tiered Feedback/Rating Upsells

16:01 — Comparison and Retention Tactics

19:40 — Live Reaction Upsell

22:58 — Bulk Discounts and Rush Delivery

25:30 — Recurring Subscription Model (Unlimited Service)

29:20 — Automated Messages

43:40 — CRM Data

54:35 — Exclusivity and Systemization

1:04:00 — Scarcity Offer

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Going above and beyond in business is one of the simplest ways to stand out, but almost nobody does it. Ben and Jon break down real examples from ecommerce, online business, and service businesses that prove doing unscalable work can create customers for life. If you run a business, work in ecommerce, or want to grow through word of mouth instead of paid ads, this conversation is a blueprint you can use today.

They dive into the psychology of customer loyalty, the power of personal follow up, how great operators remove friction for customers, and why automated messages never replace a real human connection. Ben shares the full story behind the golf simulator “box” concept and how small, unexpected touches create repeat buyers. Jon breaks down the simple practice that almost every business ignores but could instantly use to raise retention and reviews.

This is a tactical, practical episode on customer experience, retention, and operator mindset, told through real stories, real failures, and real wins.

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Timestamps:

0:00 — Unscalable work that actually scales your business

1:07 — Why customers do not use the products they buy

3:10 — The golf simulator box concept

9:12 — The power of follow up calls in any business

13:30 — Unscalable strategy: implementing software for free

16:46 — Handling customers during emotional moments

22:40 — Preventing negative word of mouth before it happens

28:50 — Tools for creating personal video messages

38:08 — First Form's extreme approach

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Entrepreneurship and the creator economy collide as Ben and Jon dig into the real leverage behind Gary Vee's VeeFriends. This is an operator-level breakdown of how smart creators turn attention into long-term ownership and why the VeeFriends model exposed an online business path most people completely missed.

Ben explains why creator backed IP has real staying power, how audience trust becomes a business asset, and why Gary’s early moves were a preview of where the internet is going. Jon pushes on the practical side of it and why most creators never make the jump from content to long term ownership.

This is a breakdown of creator led IP, attention arbitrage, and the gaps that still exist for people who understand where value migrates online. No hype. No slogans. Just the real operator angle on what Gary actually built.

If you like conversations that reveal how online businesses and creator brands actually work, this episode is worth your time.

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Timestamps:

00:00 – BK and his VeeFriends belief

03:25 – How VeeFriends got started

06:26 – Is this just the start?

13:45 – Were you into him?

21:35 – You don’t have to be an expert to build it

23:00 – How to start and create content

29:30 – Will it all be AI?

34:05 – What would Gary say?

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