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Lawyers Who Learn

Lawyers Who Learn

Von: David Schnurman
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Lawyers Who Learn, explores how attorneys’ engagement in lifelong learning fuels their growth. Join us to uncover these journeys and gain insights for your legal career.Copyright 2024 All rights reserved. Persönliche Entwicklung Persönlicher Erfolg
  • #70 Five Toxic Myths Trapping Lawyers—And How Greek Gods Break Them
    Oct 13 2025

    Scott Mason spent 25 years building exactly the legal career everyone expected: Columbia Law School graduate, general counsel to the nation's largest domestic violence shelter provider, second-in-command of New York City's court system. When a near-death illness hit in 2023, it didn't introduce a new question. It just made the one he'd been avoiding impossible to ignore: had he become an attorney to meet everyone else's expectations except his own? By then, he'd already launched a transformational coaching practice in 2020, built on an unlikely foundation—Greek mythology.

    In this episode of Lawyers Who Learn, host David Schnurman, CEO of Lawline, explores why Scott believes ancient Greeks understood something modern coaching ignores. While philosophers like Aristotle rejected mythical thinking, Scott argues they threw out the blueprint. The patterns that trapped Sisyphus in endless repetition, Persephone in darkness, and Prometheus in punishment aren't ancient history—they're operating in law firms today. Attorneys pushing the same rock uphill daily, partners fearing change will destroy them, associates repeating behaviors that stopped serving them years ago.

    Scott introduces his Five Toxic Myths: tragic origins, social expectations, ritualistic patterns, doomsday thinking, and existential apathy. His solution—stepping into roles of Author, Hero, or Olympian—requires twenty sessions and "radical self-accountability." A remarkable moment arrives when Scott discovers David's son recently studied the exact childhood book that changed Scott's life and led him to identify with Helios, the sun god—proof, Scott suggests, that these archetypal patterns are more universal than we admit. His deliberately bold branding intentionally repels some while attracting his ideal client: the mid-career lawyer sensing greater possibilities but unable to identify the "mist" holding them back.

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    44 Min.
  • #69 The Meditation Practice That Built a Speaking and Legal Career
    Oct 6 2025

    Claire E. Parsons made equity partner at her first firm, yet found herself paralyzed by a lifetime of fear and perfectionism. Then postpartum depression forced her to try something radical: one minute of daily meditation. That single minute grew into a 30-minute practice that didn't just change her mental health—it transformed her entire career trajectory. In this episode of Lawyers Who Learn, host David Schnurman explores how Claire evolved from a civil rights attorney afraid to speak about her meditation practice to a mindfulness teacher with over ten speaking engagements scheduled for Q4 alone. Now Of Counsel at Bricker Graydon, Claire represents school districts in high-conflict special education disputes while teaching meditation and wellness courses on Lawline. Claire's journey reveals a counterintuitive truth: she didn't overcome fear by eliminating it, but by accepting it. As an introvert who loves teaching but hates networking events, she discovered that authentic expertise creates its own opportunities. Her approach to combining ancient mindfulness practices with modern legal challenges offers a blueprint for attorneys navigating emotionally charged cases. Whether dealing with angry parents in special education disputes or difficult opposing counsel, Claire demonstrates how seeing adversaries as human beings rather than enemies can actually make you a more effective advocate. This conversation offers practical strategies for legal professionals struggling with anxiety, perfectionism, and the fear of putting themselves out there—while showing how wellness practices can become both a personal refuge and a professional differentiator in an increasingly divided world.

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    40 Min.
  • #68 The Midlife Question Every Successful Leader Fears to Ask
    Sep 29 2025

    "Are my best days behind me, or are my best days ahead of me?" It's the question that haunts successful professionals in midlife—one they often can't even verbalize. David Schnurman, CEO of Lawline, faces this internal struggle daily, driven by Abraham Maslow's warning: "If you deliberately plan on being less than you're capable of being, you'll be unhappy for the rest of your life."

    In this unprecedented episode of Lawyers Who Learn, David steps away from the host chair to become the guest, guided through a live coaching session with Kara Hardin, CEO and founder of The Practice Lab. Hardin, a former practicing lawyer turned registered psychotherapist who specializes in high performance and mental health, creates a rare moment of vulnerability as David confronts the painful gap between his potential and his current reality.

    David achieved everything he visualized in his twenties—the Brooklyn townhouse, the successful company, the family life he dreamed of. But now, without a clear vision for the next twenty years, he feels his soul "crying to be used" in ways he can't yet articulate. Hardin expertly unpacks the paradox plaguing high achievers: the very strengths that propelled them to success often become barriers to their next evolution.

    This condensed seven-minute session from a thirty-five-minute coaching conversation reveals how the skills that got us here won't get us there. Hardin challenges David—and every listener facing their own midlife inflection point—to examine their deepest fears and strongest protections, showing how true growth requires embracing the opposite of what once made us feel safe.

    For legal professionals questioning whether their peak performance days are over, this intimate dialogue offers both mirror and roadmap for navigating the complex terrain between past achievement and future potential.

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    7 Min.
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