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Discussing a more beautiful gospel. LOAM with Pastors Tonetta Landis-Aina and Anthony Parrott unravels the radical implications of Jesus' good news for today's world. Moving beyond surface-level spirituality and worn-out religious clichés, each episode explores how the expansive love of God transforms our understanding of justice, community, and what it means to be human. Through theological deep dives, cultural analysis, and honest conversation, Tonetta and Anthony invite listeners to reimagine Christianity not as a system of control, but as an invitation into divine abundance. Whether you're deconstructing your faith, seeking a more inclusive spirituality, or simply curious about a gospel that's truly good news for everyone, this podcast creates space for the questions, doubts, and discoveries that emerge when we take Jesus at his word. New episodes biweekly.2024 Christentum Spiritualität
  • 011: The Dance We're Fighting For: Sabbatical and Resistance in DC
    Oct 1 2025
    011: The Dance We're Fighting For: Sabbatical and Resistance in DC A Conversation on Rest, Resistance, and Ministry in Turbulent Times Podcast: The LOAM Podcast - A Conversation on a More Beautiful Gospel Hosts: Anthony Parrott and Tonetta Landis-Aina Episode Length: ~35 minutes Recording Context: First full day of federal government shutdown in DC, amid ICE raids, mass firings, and political turmoil Episode Summary After a long summer break, Anthony and Tonetta reunite to discuss Tonetta's sabbatical experience and what it means to do ministry in Washington, DC during a time of unprecedented crisis. This honest conversation explores the tensions between rest and resistance, pastoral care and prophetic action, and joy and suffering. Tonetta shares what surprised her about stepping away from ministry, while both hosts grapple with how progressive faith communities can stay awake to injustice without succumbing to burnout. "During the darkest days of the AIDS crisis, we buried our friends in the morning, we protested in the afternoon, and we danced all night. And it was the dance that kept us in the fight because it was the dance we were fighting for." — Dan Savage Episode Highlights & Timestamps [00:00:00] Welcome Back & Sabbatical Energy Anthony and Tonetta reconnect after the summer break, with Tonetta bringing post-sabbatical energy and even downloading new apps. The conversation opens with the importance of listener feedback and sets the stage for discussing both sabbatical and ministry in crisis. [00:02:10] Sabbatical Interview Begins Anthony interviews Tonetta about her three-month sabbatical, exploring what she hoped for versus what actually happened. [00:03:22] What Were You Hoping For? Spending more time with her 3-year-old daughter before she started schoolExploring the theme of "home" after multiple moves in five yearsReading about place, gardens, and cultivating earthWhat didn't happen: organizing email and tech projectsDiscovery: Becoming very good at "puttering" - taking longer than expected to reach restful spaces The Bathrobe Moment: Anthony describes visiting Tonetta on a Sunday afternoon to find her in full sabbatical mode - in a bathrobe, completely at rest while her family attended church. [00:08:40] Chaos in the City, Rest at Home Did the intense summer in DC interrupt Tonetta's rest? Surprisingly, not much. She intentionally "holed up" in August knowing there would be plenty to do in September. As a Black queer woman in America, she notes that there's always suffering to be present to - but she won't survive if she stays constantly present to it. "I'm a black queer woman in America... when I have a chance to try to step away, I do. I won't survive if I just stay present to it consistently." On joy and resistance: Tonetta references Mary Oliver's poem "Don't Hesitate": "Joy is not made to be a crumb." When genuine joy happens, it is almost always appropriate to lean into it. [00:13:00] The Dance We Were Fighting For Discussion of Dan Savage's powerful quote about the AIDS crisis, and how it connects to T.S. Eliot's poetry about the Trinitarian dance. "At the still point of the turning world... at the still point, there the dance is." — T.S. Eliot, Four Quartets (Burnt Norton) Tonetta connects this to the idea that at the heart of the Trinity there is joy, love, and mutuality - and that the dance is what we're fighting for, the overflow of divine life. [00:14:41] What Did You Learn About Yourself as a Leader? Practicing Silence: Tonetta discovered the beauty of contemplative silence - not typical in the Pentecostal/charismatic spaces where she grew up. Learning to find God in silence at home, then recognizing that presence in unexpected quiet moments throughout the day. The Bible and Work: Tonetta realized how intertwined the Bible has become with her job. It's hard to approach Scripture in a lighthearted way when it's so associated with work. She started Lectio Divina but found herself wanting to "study" passages - which didn't feel good. A major takeaway: she needs to cultivate ways to disconnect the Bible from her work. Anthony's Lesson: Coming out of his own sabbatical, Anthony learned he has "two modes: uninvolved or in charge" - which is a problem. He had to learn to be okay with other people leading in ways he wouldn't, and that it won't hurt him. [00:18:09] What Did You Miss or Not Miss? The Surprise: Tonetta thought she'd visit synagogues, houses of worship, and connect with other church leaders. Instead, she just wanted to be home, pray, and listen to gospel music. Her family went to church while she "bathed in the silence." This gave her much more understanding and respect for congregants who want to step away from church sometimes. A congregant's response: "So now what you think is that we stay home to pray. I'm gonna just tell you that might not always be what we're doing, just to be clear." "My entire life I have been in gathered church spaces and I found it so ...
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    35 Min.
  • 010: Rest as Resistance: Sabbath, Sabbaticals, and Becoming an Outlier
    Jun 12 2025
    Rest as Resistance: Sabbath, Sabbaticals, and Becoming an Outlier Subtitle: A Conversation on Biblical Rest, Work Culture, and the Courage to Live Counter-Culturally Podcast: The LOAM Podcast - A Conversation on a More Beautiful Gospel Episode Type: Final episode with co-host before sabbatical Episode Summary In this deeply personal and theologically rich episode, hosts Anthony Parrott and the Reverend Sister Tonetta Landis-Aina explore the radical nature of rest in our productivity-obsessed culture. As Tonetta prepares for her first sabbatical, they dive into biblical perspectives on Sabbath, the resistance inherent in choosing rest, and how our earliest experiences with work and rest shape our adult practices. Key Takeaway: To practice true rest in our culture is to become "a fugitive from grind culture" and an outlier who chooses to live into the world as it should be, rather than accepting the relentless pace of late-stage capitalism. Episode Highlights & Timestamps [Opening] Being an Outlier Tonetta's upcoming sabbatical and the rarity of such policies in church workThe cultural confusion and sideways looks that come with extended restIntroduction to Tricia Hersey's concept of being "a fugitive from grind culture" "To be a fugitive is to break free... embracing becoming an outlier. To live into practices of rest, you have to accept that you will be an outlier." [Mid-Episode] What Did You Learn from Your Caregivers About Rest? Anthony's Story: Growing up with a father working brutal newspaper printing schedules, the family's disrupted rhythms, and the "I'll sleep when I'm dead" mentalityTonetta's Story: Middle-class upbringing with a hardworking teacher father who gamed the system for stability, and the tension between being and doingHow childhood experiences with work and rest shape adult approaches to Sabbath [Biblical Foundation] Bible and Rest Rhythms vs. Balance: Why Anthony believes balance is a lie and rhythms are biblicalGenesis Patterns: Daily, weekly, yearly, and jubilee cycles of work and restTechnology as Resistance: How modern technology tries to override natural creation rhythmsJohn 15 - Fruitfulness and Abiding: The counterintuitive wisdom that even fruitful branches need pruning "If you want something to grow up into a strong, healthy plant... the first year you plant a grapevine, it's gonna bear some fruit... No. Cut it back. Wait a year... You wait at least three years before you start getting the fruit out of it." [Practical Theology] What Defines Sabbath for Each of Us? Anthony's Characteristics: Work Stoppage: Forcing clarity about what constitutes work vs. restReposing in Creation: Following God's example of stepping back and saying "this is good"Alternative Identity: Leaning into identities beyond work - mother, Prince fan, tennis player Tonetta's Characteristics: Play as Rest: Reclaiming play as non-productive but deeply engaging activityStructured Rest: Understanding that rest doesn't have to be passive or unstructuredCommunal Impact: How personal rest creates ripples enabling others to rest Key Biblical Passages Discussed Genesis 1-2: Creation rhythms and the first SabbathJohn 15: The vine and branches - fruitfulness and abidingExodus & Deuteronomy: Sabbath commands including rest for community and livestockProverbs 8: Wisdom personified as playing and frolicking before GodLevitical patterns: Sabbatical years and Jubilee cycles Recommended Resources Books & Authors Mentioned: Tricia Hersey - "Rest is Resistance" and Rest DeckCal Newport - Thoughts on focus as 21st-century currencyWendell Berry - Technology and creation rhythmsJürgen Moltmann - Liberation theology: Exodus and Sabbath as two sides of freedomCindy Wang Brandt - "Parenting Forward" on collective rest Concepts Explored: Fugitivity and rest as resistanceLate-stage capitalism vs. biblical rhythmsMultitasking as myth vs. monotasking as focusPlay as non-productive engagementTrauma-informed learning through playSabbath as community practice, not just individual discipline Discussion Questions How do your earliest experiences with work and rest continue to shape your current practices?In what ways might you need to become an "outlier" to practice meaningful rest?What's the difference between "balance" and "rhythms" in your own life?How can your personal rest create space for others in your community to rest?What would it look like to reclaim "play" as an adult spiritual practice?Where do you see technology overriding natural rhythms in your life? Quotable Moments "Rest is a human right. It is the first day of humanity's existence according to Genesis 2." "Focus is going to be the most important currency in the 21st century because... everybody is vying for our attention all the time." "There are two sides to liberation... exodus (leaving the system) and Sabbath (rest). Liberation does not exist unless both of those are in place." Connect with The LOAM Podcast Instagram: @loam.fmAnthony Parrott: @...
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    40 Min.
  • 009: Death Cannot Digest Divinity (Atonement Part 2)
    May 28 2025
    Episode Overview

    In this second part of their atonement series, hosts Anthony Parrott and Tonetta Landis-Aina dive deeper into healthier frameworks for understanding the cross, moving beyond problematic theologies toward more life-giving perspectives. They explore concepts like the harrowing of hell, Christus Victor, and René Girard's scapegoat theory while emphasizing how the cross reveals God's radical solidarity with the marginalized.

    Key Topics Discussed 1. The Cross as Radical Power Reversal
    • Challenges to Christian nationalism
    • Power displayed through weakness
    • The cross as counter-imperial statement
    2. The Cross as Lynching
    • Connection between crucifixion and American lynching history
    • James Cone's The Cross and the Lynching Tree
    • Understanding the cross through the lens of racial violence and solidarity with victims
    3. Language Matters: Reconciliation vs. Cleansing
    • Translation issues with "atonement" (at-one-ment)
    • Being saved from misconceptions about God's wrath, not from God's wrath itself
    4. Participation in Atonement
    • Co-suffering love (not coercive suffering)
    • Local, contextual discipleship
    • Christ suffered ahead of us, not instead of us
    5. The Harrowing of Hell
    • Jesus' descent to free the dead
    • Death as prison that cannot hold God
    • Early church imagery of chains breaking under the cross
    6. Christus Victor
    • Christ's victory over sin, death, and evil
    • Both spiritual and physical dimensions
    • The church as continuation of Christ's victory through acts of love and justice
    7. René Girard and Scapegoat Theory
    • Mimetic desire and rivalry
    • The cross as revelation (not blessing) of the scapegoat mechanism
    • Breaking cycles of accusation and violence
    Books and Resources Referenced Books Mentioned
    • The Cross and the Lynching Tree by James Cone
    • Sacred Self-Care by Dr. Shaniqua Walker-Barnes
    • The Wood Between the Worlds by Brian Zahnd
    • The Day the Revolution Began by N.T. Wright
    • Crucifixion by Martin Hengel
    • The Brothers Karamazov by Dostoevsky
    • The Screwtape Letters by C.S. Lewis
    Scholars Referenced
    • René Girard (French philosopher, mimetic theory)
    • Dr. Shaniqua Walker-Barnes
    • Brian Zahnd
    • N.T. Wright
    • Martin Hengel
    • James Cone
    • Brian Blount (Black New Testament scholar)
    • Douglas Campbell
    • Scot McKnight
    • Jennifer Bashaw (on scapegoating)
    • Chris Green (theologian)
    • David Bentley Hart
    Key Scripture References
    • John 12:20-25 - Jesus on his coming death
    • Ephesians 4:8-10 - descent to lower regions
    • 1 Peter 3:18-20 - proclamation to imprisoned spirits
    • Hebrews 2 - freedom from fear of death
    • 1 John 3:8 - destroying the works of the devil
    • Colossians 2 - leading powers in parade
    Historical References
    • Alexamenos graffiti (Roman graffiti mocking Christians)
    • Samuel Dewitt Proctor Conference
    • Birmingham church bombing
    • Lynching Memorial (Equal Justice Initiative)
    Memorable Quotes
    • "The cross is foolishness and we are faithful to foolishness"
    • "Death cannot digest divinity"
    • "Christ suffered ahead of us, not instead of us"
    • "We are slowly bending the arc of history towards justice"
    • "The crucifixion of Christ was not a defeat that was overturned by resurrection. Rather, it was a victory revealed in resurrection"
    Contact Information

    Instagram: @PastorParrott and @TonettaLandis

    Podcast Instagram: @loam.fm

    Email for questions: podcast@loam.fm

    Note to Listeners

    The hosts welcome questions for a potential Q&A episode. Send your questions to podcast@loam.fm to participate in future discussions about gospel, faith, and social justice.

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    45 Min.
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