In this illuminating episode of The Sovereign Shift, Chelsea Eden Dubeau sits down with bestselling author and astrologer Carmen Turner-Schott for a deep dive into the hidden realms of astrology—the 8th and 12th houses, often called the houses of transformation, trauma, and spiritual awakening.

Carmen, a therapist and intuitive with over 30 years of experience, shares how astrology reveals the deeper purpose behind pain, loss, and sensitivity. She explains why 12th House souls often feel like fallen angels—deeply empathic beings carrying collective and ancestral wounds—and how 8th House souls embody the phoenix, rising again and again from the ashes of profound change.

Together, Chelsea and Carmen explore: ✨ How your birth chart is a map of the soul and the key to self-healing ✨ The difference between the 8th and 12th houses—and what they reveal about your past lives, trauma, and gifts ✨ The spiritual link between astrology, addiction, and emotional sensitivity ✨ Why 2025 is an astrologically unprecedented year of collective transformation ✨ The science and spirituality behind astrology’s “hidden houses” ✨ Carmen’s personal journey from trauma to spiritual service—and how understanding her chart helped her walk away from a 25-year government career to follow her true north node

If you’ve ever felt different, deeply sensitive, or drawn to unseen realms, this conversation will feel like home. Bring your birth chart, take a deep breath, and get ready to rediscover the sacred design behind your soul’s journey.

Segment Markers:

00:00 Introduction to The Sovereign Shift

00:22 Meet Carmen Turner Shot: Astrologer and Therapist

00:58 Astrology's Impact on Daily Life

01:36 Carmen's Personal Journey with Astrology

01:51 Deep Dive into the Eighth and Twelfth Houses

02:09 Breathwork and Spiritual Practices

02:32 Chelsea's Introduction and Podcast Mission

04:22 Carmen's Early Experiences with Astrology

09:38 Understanding the Twelfth House

16:05 Astrology and Personal Healing

40:01 The Role of Transits in Astrology

49:37 Understanding 12th House Sensitivity

50:30 Pisces and Addiction Tendencies

52:02 Coping Mechanisms and Personal Stories

55:53 Astrology and Life Changes

01:02:14 Exploring Eighth House Energies

01:08:15 Astrological Elements and Balancing Energies

01:20:47 Mundane Astrology and World Events

01:32:40 Connecting with Carmen Turner

Listen to this episode if you’re searching for:

• How astrology explains trauma and healing
• The meaning of the 8th and 12th astrological houses
• The link between astrology and addiction recovery
• Spiritual awakening through astrology
• Nervous system regulation and soul purpose
• 2025 astrological predictions

Connect with Carmen:

Visit Carmen’s website: https://carmenturnerschott.com/

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/carmen_turner_schott_author/

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