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  • What Actually Heals Shame with Daniel Herron

    What Actually Heals Shame with Daniel Herron
    Apr 9 2026
    Awareness is powerful—but it doesn’t heal shame on its own. In Part 2, Patria Rector and Daniel Herron explore what actually begins to loosen shame’s grip and create real transformation. This conversation moves from insight → integration. Inside this episode:
    • Why naming shame isn’t enough
    • What keeps shame narratives protected
    • How to move from self-rejection to self-acceptance
    • Why “white-knuckling” never works long-term
    • The connection between identity, safety, and healing
    • What it means to become “uncontrolled by the system”
    Daniel shares a powerful framework for healing:
    Delight. Honor. Repair. And together, they explore:
    • Reparenting yourself with what you never received
    • Reclaiming parts of you that were hidden for survival
    • Why self-acceptance is the doorway to change
    This episode is about moving from:
    Survival → Integration
    Shame → Truth
    Performance → Freedom

    Connect With Daniel:
    https://www.musathewild.com/

    If this episode resonates with you, follow or subscribe to Echoes and Edges on your favorite podcast platform, leave a five-star review, and share with a friend who might need a gentle invitation to self-understanding.

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    Credits:
    Echoes and Edges is Produced and Edited by: Stephen R. Sanders
    Music Promoted by Envato
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    36 Min.
  • The Story Beneath Our Shame with Daniel Herron

    The Story Beneath Our Shame with Daniel Herron
    Apr 2 2026
    What if the way you see yourself… isn’t actually yours?

    In this conversation, Patria Rector sits down with inner healing coach Daniel Herron to explore the hidden narratives that quietly shape our identity—often without our awareness. Together, they unpack how shame forms, why it attaches to who we are (not just what we do), and how it becomes a powerful—yet invisible—survival strategy.

    This episode explores:
    1. Why shame feels like “something is wrong with me”
    2. The difference between guilt and shame—and why it matters
    3. How childhood environments shape identity and belonging
    4. The role of secrecy in keeping shame alive
    5. Why behaviors aren’t the root problem—they’re the symptom
    6. How narratives become embedded in families and systems
    You’ll hear honest reflections on:
    1. Being labeled “too much” or “not enough”
    2. The cost of belonging inside unhealthy systems
    3. How survival strategies become identity
    This is Part 1 of a two-part conversation. In Part 2, we explore what actually helps shame begin to loosen—and how healing becomes possible.

    Connect With Daniel:
    https://www.musathewild.com/

    If this episode resonates with you, follow or subscribe to Echoes and Edges on your favorite podcast platform, leave a five-star review, and share with a friend who might need a gentle invitation to self-understanding.

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    Credits:
    Echoes and Edges is Produced and Edited by: Stephen R. Sanders
    Music Promoted by Envato
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    41 Min.
  • When Your Nervous System Is Running Your Relationships with Laurie Proctor

    When Your Nervous System Is Running Your Relationships with Laurie Proctor
    Mar 27 2026
    Why do the same patterns keep showing up in your relationships—no matter how self-aware you are? In this episode, we unpack how dysregulation quietly shapes the way we connect, react, withdraw, and pursue. What looks like “overreacting,” shutting down, or conflict spirals is often your nervous system trying to protect you—not sabotage you. We talk about:
    • How emotional triggers are formed (and why they feel so fast and overwhelming)
    • The difference between reaction and response
    • Why awareness alone doesn’t break the cycle
    • What it actually takes to interrupt patterns in real time
    • How regulation changes the way we experience love, conflict, and connection
    This conversation isn’t about fixing yourself.
    It’s about understanding what’s been running underneath—and learning how to work with it instead of against it.

    About the Guest:
    Laurie Proctor is a professionally certified coach, Internal Family Systems practitioner, Human Design coach, and certified Enneagram instructor who partners with individuals, teams, and organizations seeking healing and transformation. She is the founder of SOWThat (Self Others World), where her work centers on the belief that healing begins within and ripples outward to others and the world. Laurie holds multiple certificates in narrative-focused trauma care from The Seattle School of Theology and Psychology and is passionate about helping people discover the treasures within that can change their lives—and the world.

    Learn more about her work at sowthat.com.


    If this episode resonates with you, follow or subscribe to Echoes and Edges on your favorite podcast platform, leave a five-star review, and share with a friend who might need a gentle invitation to self-understanding.

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    Credits:
    Echoes and Edges is Produced and Edited by: Stephen R. Sanders
    Music Promoted by Envato
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    38 Min.
  • The Healing Power of Creativity: Reclaiming Imagination After Trauma with Sher Nyquist

    The Healing Power of Creativity: Reclaiming Imagination After Trauma with Sher Nyquist
    Mar 19 2026
    What if healing didn’t have to be forced… or figured out… or even put into words?

    In this episode of Echoes and Edges, Patria sits down with trauma-informed coach and Processing Trauma Out Loud host, Sher Nyquist, to explore how creativity—yes, even the simplest forms—can gently unlock healing. This conversation reframes art, imagination, and play as powerful tools for processing trauma, regulating the nervous system, and reconnecting with parts of ourselves that may have been silenced by shame, judgment, or survival. No artistic skill required—just curiosity.

    What You’ll Hear in This Episode
    • Why healing isn’t something you “fix”—it’s something you approach slowly
    • How creativity helps access what words can’t reach
    • The surprising link between trauma responses and creativity
    • Why you don’t have to be “an artist” to benefit from creative expression
    • How simple practices (like stick figures or color swirling) can unlock deeper memory and emotion
    • The role of the nervous system—and how art can help regulate it
    • How shame shuts down creativity (and how to gently move toward it instead)
    • Why imagination is one of the most accessible and powerful healing tools we have
    • The concept of “lavish tenderness” and why simplicity matters in healing
    Key Takeaways
    • Creativity is not about performance—it’s about expression
    • Trauma often compresses our sense of self; creativity helps expand it
    • Healing happens in slowness, safety, and small, consistent moments
    • Imagination is free, always available, and neurologically impactful
    • You can “turn toward” difficult emotions instead of pushing them away
    • Play, wonder, and curiosity are not extras—they are essential to healing
    A Gentle Practice

    Take a moment and notice:
    • What stayed with you from this conversation?
    • If that feeling had a color, what would it be?
    • Where do you sense it in your body?
    No need to analyze. No need to fix.

    Just notice.

    About Our Guest
    Sher Nyquist Sher Nyquist is a trauma-informed story coach who integrates Narrative-Focused Trauma Care, somatic awareness, and simple creative practices to help people reconnect with their stories and themselves. She specializes in creating safe, compassionate spaces where healing unfolds through curiosity, imagination, and gentle exploration.

    🎙 Host of: Processing Trauma Out Loud
    • One-on-one story coaching
    • Integration of creative practices + somatic awareness
    • EFT tapping (for those interested)
    📧 Email: shernyquist@gmail.com

    If this episode resonates with you, follow or subscribe to Echoes and Edges on your favorite podcast platform, leave a five-star review, and share with a friend who might need a gentle invitation to self-understanding.

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    Credits:
    Echoes and Edges is Produced and Edited by: Stephen R. Sanders
    Music Promoted by Envato
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    59 Min.
  • When Dysregulation Shapes the Way We Love with Laurie Proctor

    When Dysregulation Shapes the Way We Love with Laurie Proctor
    Mar 12 2026
    In this episode, host Patria Rector continues the conversation with coach, Internal Family Systems practitioner, and Enneagram instructor Laurie Proctor about the powerful role our nervous systems and internal parts play in shaping relationships. When we become dysregulated, connection often gives way to survival. Fight, flight, freeze, and collapse are responses that helped us endure difficult moments in our stories—but they were never designed to sustain healthy relationships.

    Patria and Laurie explore how unintegrated parts within us can create rupture in our relationships and how learning to regulate before responding allows love, empathy, and curiosity to lead instead of fear. Through personal stories, Enneagram insights, and reflections from Internal Family Systems work, they discuss how different people experience dysregulation in different ways—from outward reactivity to internal collapse—and how awareness can open the door to greater compassion for ourselves and others.

    The episode also widens the lens beyond individual relationships, exploring how the same patterns of survival and dysregulation can shape communities and even the cultural moment we find ourselves living in.

    In this episode, we explore:
    • How dysregulation leads to rupture in relationships
    • The difference between survival responses and relational connection
    • Why regulation matters before responding in moments of conflict
    • How Enneagram patterns influence our stress responses
    • Internal Family Systems and responding from “Self” rather than reactive parts
    • The role of empathy in restoring connection
    • How personal dysregulation can mirror collective tension in the world around us
    Reflection:
    What happens in your body when you feel threatened, misunderstood, or angry? Do you move toward conflict, withdraw from it, or collapse inward? Learning to notice these responses is often the first step toward responding from a more grounded and compassionate place.

    About the Guest:
    Laurie Proctor is a professionally certified coach, Internal Family Systems practitioner, Human Design coach, and certified Enneagram instructor who partners with individuals, teams, and organizations seeking healing and transformation. She is the founder of SOWThat (Self Others World), where her work centers on the belief that healing begins within and ripples outward to others and the world. Laurie holds multiple certificates in narrative-focused trauma care from The Seattle School of Theology and Psychology and is passionate about helping people discover the treasures within that can change their lives—and the world.

    Learn more about her work at sowthat.com.

    If this episode resonates with you, follow or subscribe to Echoes and Edges on your favorite podcast platform, leave a five-star review, and share with a friend who might need a gentle invitation to self-understanding.

    Connect With Patria
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    Credits:
    Echoes and Edges is Produced and Edited by: Stephen R. Sanders
    Music Promoted by Envato
    Echoes and Edges is a part of VividLivid Podcast Network - Where bruises speak and healing finds its voice.
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    24 Min.
  • How Inner Work Changes the Way We Love with Laurie Proctor

    How Inner Work Changes the Way We Love with Laurie Proctor
    Mar 5 2026
    In this episode, host Patria Rector sits down with coach, IFS practitioner, and Enneagram instructor Laurie Proctor for a thoughtful conversation about how inner work reshapes the way we experience love.

    Love is often talked about as a feeling, a virtue, or an ideal. But in real life, love is shaped by the stories we carry, the wounds we’ve endured, and the nervous systems we inhabit. When those stories remain unexamined, love often operates through survival patterns—control, withdrawal, reactivity, or collapse. Together, Patria and Laurie explore a different possibility: love that grows from integration.

    Drawing from Internal Family Systems, the Enneagram, and decades of personal and professional experience, they discuss how healing our inner world changes the way we show up in relationships. Instead of trying to perfect ourselves, the invitation is to become more aware, more compassionate toward our own parts, and more grounded in what IFS calls self-energy—the calm, curious, compassionate center within us. This conversation opens a space for listeners to consider how their own history, patterns, and nervous system responses influence the way they give and receive love.

    In this episode, we explore
    • Why love often becomes distorted by survival patterns
    • How trauma and nervous system responses shape relationships
    • The role of Internal Family Systems and “parts” language
    • What self-energy looks like in everyday life
    • Why integration—not perfection—leads to healthier connection
    • How untended pain eventually seeks expression
    A question to reflect on
    When relationships feel tense or unsafe, what response tends to take the lead for you—control, withdrawal, reactivity, or collapse? Sometimes the first step toward healing is simply noticing.

    About the Guest
    Laurie Proctor is a professionally certified coach, Internal Family Systems practitioner, Human Design coach, and certified Enneagram instructor who partners with individuals, teams, and organizations seeking healing and transformation. She is the founder of Sow That (Self Others World), where her work centers on the belief that healing begins within and ripples outward to others and the world. Laurie holds multiple certificates in narrative-focused trauma care from The Seattle School of Theology and Psychology and is passionate about helping people discover the treasures within that can change their lives—and the world.

    Learn more about her work at sowthat.com.

    If this episode resonates with you, follow or subscribe to Echoes and Edges on your favorite podcast platform, leave a five-star review, and share with a friend who might need a gentle invitation to self-understanding.

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    Credits:
    Echoes and Edges is Produced and Edited by: Stephen R. Sanders
    Music Promoted by Envato
    Echoes and Edges is a part of VividLivid Podcast Network - Where bruises speak and healing finds its voice.
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    31 Min.
  • The Arc of Integration (Part 2 of 2) with Adam Young

    The Arc of Integration (Part 2 of 2) with Adam Young
    Feb 26 2026
    This is Part 2 of a 2-part conversation with Adam Young — and it goes deeper into the places most of us were taught to avoid.

    In this episode, Patria and Adam turn toward sexuality, shame, anger, kindness, and integration — not as abstract ideas, but as lived, embodied experiences shaped by story, attachment, and the nervous system.

    If Part 1 laid the foundation, Part 2 enters the terrain.🔎

    This Episode Is For You If:
    1. You want to understand your sexual story without shame
    2. You’ve felt violated without being touched and didn’t know why
    3. You struggle with anger, sadness, or shame and don’t know where to start
    4. You want healing that includes the body, not just insight
    5. You’re ready for kindness that tells the truth
    📚 Resources Mentioned
    1. The Wounded Heart by Dan Allender
    2. Allender Center
    3. Adam Young Counseling
    4. The Place We Find Ourselves – Adam Young's Podcast
    5. Make Sense of Your Story – Adam Young's Book
    If this episode stirred something tender, that’s not an accident.
    Stay with it.
    Healing doesn’t rush — it integrates.

    If you haven’t listened to Part 1 yet, start there.

    And if this conversation mattered to you, share it with someone who needs a safe invitation into their story.

    If this episode resonates with you, follow or subscribe to Echoes and Edges on your favorite podcast platform, leave a five-star review, and share with a friend who might need a gentle invitation to self-understanding.

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    Credits:
    Echoes and Edges is Produced and Edited by: Stephen R. Sanders
    Music Promoted by Envato
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    28 Min.
  • The Arc of Integration (Part 1 of 2) with Adam Young

    The Arc of Integration (Part 1 of 2) with Adam Young
    Feb 19 2026
    In this episode, Patria sits down with Adam Young — licensed clinical social worker, teacher at the Allender Center, host of The Place We Find Ourselves, and author of Make Sense of Your Story — to unpack the beginning of what Patria calls "The Arc of Integration."This is Part 1 of a 2-part conversation exploring what it really takes to move from brokenheartedness to integration.This first conversation lays the foundation:Why we avoid our wounds.Why honesty feels terrifying.And why healing cannot happen alone.Part 2 will move further into attachment, relational repair, and what freedom actually looks like in lived experience.🧠 In Part 1, We Explore:✦ Brokenheartedness & CaptivityWhen something shatters inside us, we build ways of living that promise we’ll never feel that pain again. Those strategies protect us. They also enslave us. “Far more than repentance, we need the healing of the broken heart.”✦ The Mystery of HonestyWhy do some people pursue truth about their past… and others double down on denial? Quoting Eric Hoffer: “Far more crucial than what we know or do not know is what we do not want to know.” The question beneath everything: What do you want? How free do you actually want to be?✦ Why You Can’t Heal AloneTrying to make sense of your childhood by yourself doesn’t work — even if you’re intelligent, self-aware, and spiritually committed. What was “normal” to you may not have been normal at all. Healing requires reflection. Questions. Story shared in relationship.✦ “I Never Knew You.”A deeper look at Matthew 7 reframes spiritual disconnection. The issue isn’t religious performance. It’s relational exposure. If we never bring our deep desires and disappointments into relationship — with God or others — we remain unknown. And you cannot heal what you won’t reveal.🔎 This Episode Is For You If:You’ve done years of faith-based work but still feel disconnected from your heartYou’re beginning to suspect your coping strategies are also your captivityYou’re curious about story work but unsure where to startYou sense there’s more to your story than you’ve let yourself see📚 Resources MentionedThe Place We Find Ourselves - The Theory of Healing (Parts 1-3)Episode 24Episode 25Episode 26Make Sense of Your Story – Adam Young's BookAllender CenterAdam Young CounselingIf Part 1 resonates, sit with it. Don’t rush past it. Part 2 goes deeper. Follow or subscribe to Echoes and Edges so you don’t miss what comes next.If this episode resonates with you, follow or subscribe to Echoes and Edges on your favorite podcast platform, leave a five-star review, and share with a friend who might need a gentle invitation to self-understanding.Connect With PatriaFacebookInstagramThe Broken & Beautiful WebsiteCredits:Echoes and Edges is Produced and Edited by: Stephen R. SandersMusic Promoted by EnvatoEchoes and Edges is a part of VividLivid Podcast Network - Where bruises speak and healing finds its voice.
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    27 Min.