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“You don’t even understand the gravity of what it means to have a premature baby. Then you have to explain to people that it’s not just a super small baby—it means they’re born with underdeveloped lungs, brain, everything.”

In this episode, Paige tells us what it was like having two high-risk pregnancies, and how we’ve adjusted to life as stay-at-home medical moms. We both had IUGR pregnancies, and we explain the challenges that come with that diagnosis—comparing our experiences, what we knew (or didn’t know), and how unprepared we felt when our babies were born.

Paige shares her son Graham’s story in detail, from his complex airway issues to the emotional rollercoaster of caring for a micropreemie with severe BPD and unexplained respiratory distress. Graham has undergone around 23 airway reconstruction surgeries, and Paige walks us through what that journey has looked like for their family.

She’s so down to earth, and her love for Graham shines through as she talks about how far he’s come. He’s been through so much—pulse ox 24/7, a ventilator, oxygen support—but now, he hasn’t needed any of it for almost two years, except when he’s asleep. She says he amazes them every single day.

We also talk about the line we walk as complex care parents—the constant balance of being grateful things didn’t turn out worse, while still grieving the more typical experiences we imagined. If you’ve ever felt caught between gratitude and grief, or alone in your journey, this conversation will absolutely resonate.

And if you hear us laughing at slightly inappropriate times… we had our youngest guests join us during this episode—Graham and Nora! 😆