How do we keep engaging—through work, retirement, and even life’s toughest transitions?

In this episode of the What Juices You Podcast, employee engagement expert and author David Zinger joins Brady Wilson to share why engagement isn’t a static metric, but a verb you live daily.

Founder of the Employee Engagement Network and a lifelong educator, David reframes engagement as an act of agency, mindfulness, and play. From practicing “10-minute engagement zones” to volunteering in a palliative ward, he shows how engagement is both a gift to your present and an investment in your future self.

David and Brady dive into retirement, trust in organizations, the necessity of demands, and even making peace with death as a “final friend.” His perspective invites leaders to see engagement not as something done to us, but as a dynamic choice we can make—moment by moment.

In this conversation you’ll learn:

• Why engagement as a verb creates energy across every stage of life
• How today’s choices fuel your “future self” in retirement and beyond
• The role of mindfulness, micro-lingering, and play in leadership
• What palliative care can teach us about living fully engaged
• Why freedom without demands may actually drain energy

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