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Sorry for the delay, folks—been busy with the washing & the cleaning & that—but here at last is my free-ranging chat with Gary Barwin, roaming from how one ends up in a place to David McFadden to walking like James Joyce to other people's milk. We even get around to some of Gary's early shit. Enjoy. Thanks to Wayne Emde for the artwork, Joe Emde for help with the intro, DJ Max in Tokyo for the wizard music, and you, wherever & whoever & however you are, for listening.

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Jason welcomes Jaclyn Desforges for a convivial interface about letting the robots do all the stuff, writing about coconut oil, Clarice Lispector, lonely feet, weird babies, and running for mayor of Milton, Ontario. A splendid time is guaranteed for all. Thanks to Wayne Emde for the artwork, Joe Emde for help with the intro, DJ Max in Tokyo for the wizard music, and you, wherever & whoever & however you are, for listening.

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Jason welcomes Christine Fischer Guy for an amiable gab about ordering beers around the world, Glenn Gould, Danielle Steele, rising to touch the universal, synesthesia, & tuberculosis. Like, love, subscribe, & join the early sh*t chat on Instagram @writersreadtheirearlyshit. Thanks to Wayne Emde for the artwork, Joe Emde for help with the intro, DJ Max in Tokyo for the wizard music, and you, wherever & whoever & however you are, for listening.

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