This is the last episode that will be on Spotify, and for this special occasion, roles have been reversed. Frequent guest Jason Baldinger takes the role of host and interviews We’re All Gonna Die Podcast Host Matthew Ussia about Matthew’s new book Saturday Night on Earth. Saturday Night on Earth is published by Alien Buddha Press and is a book about music fandom and community.

As always, there’s some mild swearing

The prolific and extremely talented John Dorsey is back to discuss poetics and the many, many things he does and why he does them, as well as Richard Hugo.

Contact John directly to buy his books, but also check out Tangerine Press, Maverick Duck Press, Sacred Parasite Press, Pure Sleaze Press, because he has (or will soon have) something out on all of these presses. John will be reading in Portsmouth, Ohio on March 19, 2025, and he will be reading at the Sacramento Poetry Center later in 2025.

The multi-talented Judith Dorian joins me for a conversation about poetry, play, music, memory, and what’s worth holding onto. However, most of our conversation is about Judith’s new book Vanishment, which I consistently call the wrong name throughout the podcast. Judith has lived a fascinating life of creating art, researching the classical music canon, teaching piano, writing poetry, and living around the world. Buy Vanishment, come see Judith Dorian read her poetry at Riverstone Books in Squirrel Hill on January 14th, and buy her children’s book A Tiny Little Door because it’s wonderful.