• Chanie Wilschanski's Story: Trapped By My Own Success
    Nov 2 2026
    Leadership advisor Chanie Wilschanski, author of This Can’t Be Normal, joins Chavie to talk about being successful and still feeling like she was barely surviving. As the oldest daughter of Chabad shluchim in New Jersey, Chanie became the person everyone relied on. Chavie wonders whether taking charge helped her cope when home life felt chaotic and unpredictable. Later, married and raising a family in Crown Heights, she and her husband were working hard but still deep in debt. She built Schools of Excellence and they paid off their debt, but she couldn’t keep going the way she was. She shares what it was like to keep working through repeated illness and two miscarriages, even giving a keynote the day after surgery for a miscarriage. Eventually she began wondering why her life required so much endurance. They discuss how it can seem like responsibilities are divided at home, but one spouse is still left with the burden of making sure it gets done. Chanie introduces what she calls “rhythms,” things that stay predictable when life is unpredictable. Chavie shares how her therapist helps her question what’s urgent, and they talk about resisting the pressure to immediately solve a child’s problem when what they need is support. About Chanie Chanie Wilschanski is a mom of 4 and a leadership advisor, speaker, and founder of Schools of Excellence. She works with school owners and organizational leaders who have built successful businesses but find themselves carrying an unsustainable amount of invisible responsibility. She is the author of This Can’t Be Normal: What to Do When Success Starts to Feel Like Survival, a book that explores why success can begin to feel unexpectedly heavy when decisions, responsibility, and emotional weight quietly concentrate in one person. Through her work, Chanie helps leaders build the infrastructure, rhythms, and ownership that allow organizations to thrive without everything routing back to them. This Week’s Prompt Did you ever feel conflicted, scared, or overwhelmed by a pregnancy? In collaboration with SHIFRA, this week’s voice notes feature mothers sharing their experiences of struggling during pregnancy and receiving support. Stay to the end of every episode to hear listener voice notes in response to that week’s prompt. Want to join the conversation? Follow Chavie on Instagram for each week’s prompt, then send your voice note via WhatsApp to 406-600-4935. Referenced On the Pod 3:54: Life Without a Phone, Chavie’s essay on Substack8:38: Chavie’s interview with Liv Longin on The Brief9:12: The Sisters Chat about Life Behind the Mic with Chavie Bruk9:24: Mushky Yiftach Hashem’s Story: Becoming the Duct Tape Queen, on Totally Unexpected!14:39: Erica Pelman’s Story: What the Abortion Debate Misses About Mothers, on Totally Unexpected!18:40: This Can’t Be Normal by Chanie Wilschanski44:08: Schools of Excellence, Chanie Wilschanski’s podcast45:58: Terry Real, psychotherapist and author1:16:03: Finding Meaning: The Sixth Stage of Grief by David Kessler1:39:12: Shaar Habitachon (Gate of Trust)1:53:28: The Myth of Having It All by Chanie Wilschanski, EmBRace magazine, Fall 5787, pp. 34–371:54:17: The Cure for Chronic Pain with Nicole Sachs, LCSW Stay in touch with Chanie Download the first chapter of This Can’t Be Normal for free. Stay in touch with Chavie @chaviebruk on Instagram www.totallyunexpected.blog Totally Unexpected! on YouTube Want to sponsor or dedicate an episode? Reach out to Chavie on Instagram or by email at chaviebruk@gmail.com.
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    2 Std. und 19 Min.
  • Erica Pelman's Story: What the Abortion Debate Misses About Mothers
    Oct 19 2026

    Chavie and Erica bond over being two Texas girls, and Erica shares how a call from a friend planning an abortion eventually led her to create SHIFRA, a Jewish organization supporting women through unexpected pregnancies. She also shares her own family’s history with unplanned pregnancy and how her grandmother was raised believing that her biological mother was her sister. Erica explains how SHIFRA provides therapy, customized financial assistance, social services, and parenting support, and why many of the women who call are married mothers who already have children. Chavie talks about how Orthodox communities have become more open about infertility, sexual abuse, mental health, and the complexities of adoption, while unplanned pregnancy remains largely hidden. Chavie and Erica discuss the differences between Jewish and Christian approaches to abortion, why Erica keeps SHIFRA outside the pro-life/pro-choice binary, and how the organization continues supporting women even when they ultimately decide to end their pregnancies. Erica explains that her focus is always on what the mother needs. Rather than asking whether it is the right time to have a child, she asks what a woman would need to continue her pregnancy.

    About Erica

    Erica Pelman is the founder & CEO of SHIFRA. Prior to creating SHIFRA, she worked at the U.S. Department of Labor for seven years on Faith-Based and Community Initiatives and workforce development programs. She is a graduate of the University of Pennsylvania and lives in Rockville, Maryland with her husband and their four children. She grew up in Austin, Texas.

    This Week's Prompt

    What Did You Have to Unlearn About Parenting?

    Stay to the end of the episode for listener voice notes responding to this week’s prompt.

    Want to be featured in a future episode? Follow Chavie on Instagram for upcoming prompts, then send your voice note via WhatsApp to 406-600-4935.

    Referenced on the Pod

    • 2:35: Chavie’s interview with Liv Longin on The Brief
    • 8:18: Article about the Bruk's adoption journey by Dr. Yvette Alt Miller on Aish.com
    • 1:13:35: Lori Palatnik, co-founder and founding director of Momentum
    • 1:29:56: Nissim Black, Orthodox Jewish rapper and musician

    Stay in touch with Erica

    • @call_shifra on Instagram
    • If you or someone you love needs help: callshifra.org/start-here
    • If you would like to help others: callshifra.org/donate

    Stay in touch with Chavie

    • @chaviebruk on Instagram
    • www.totallyunexpected.blog
    • Totally Unexpected! on YouTube

    Want to sponsor or dedicate an episode? Reach out to Chavie on Instagram or by email at chaviebruk@gmail.com.

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    1 Std. und 53 Min.
  • Blimie Heller's Story: The Illusion of Control - A Parent’s Dilemma
    Oct 5 2026

    Parenting educator Blimie Heller joins Chavie to discuss growing up in Toronto, reading parenting books as a child, and how her oldest daughter’s refusal to comply forced her to reconsider what a parent’s role should be. Blimie and Chavie talk about setting limits without relying on punishment, why teenagers expose the illusion of parental control, and Blimie’s shift from advocating primarily for children to extending the same compassion to parents. Chavie shares a difficult morning with her teenage son, and Blimie uses Nonviolent Communication to explore what each of them needed in that moment. They close by asking whether successful parenting means raising children who comply or maintaining a strong relationship with them through conflict.

    About Blimie Blimie Heller is a parenting educator, coach, and the creator of the Relational Alignment Model™. She helps parents build relationships with their children based on respect and trust while navigating boundaries, conflict, and challenging behavior. Her work gives parents practical tools for moving away from control and toward connection, communication, and cooperation.

    This Week's Prompt Our listener prompt and voice notes took a short break for the holidays. We’ll resume next episode!

    Referenced On the Pod

    • 27:34: How to Talk So Kids Will Listen & Listen So Kids Will Talk by Adele Faber & Elaine Mazlish
    • 27:39: Children Are from Heaven by John Gray
    • 37:34: Hunt, Gather, Parent by Michaeleen Doucleff
    • 46:40: Unconditional Parenting by Alfie Kohn
    • 1:03:54: Nonviolent Communication by Marshall B. Rosenberg
    • 1:08:59: Yoram Mosenzon, Blimie’s teacher and major influence
    • 1:18:45: GROK Empathy Cards, created by Christine King & Jean Morrison
    • 1:40:21: The Journey of the Heroic Parent by Brad M. Reedy, PhD

    Stay in touch with Blimie www.blimieheller.com @unconditional_parenting on Instagram

    Stay in touch with Chavie @chaviebruk on Instagram www.totallyunexpected.blog Totally Unexpected! on YouTube

    This episode is sponsored by an anonymous listener whose generous contribution covered a month of podcast production. Thank you for believing in Totally Unexpected! and helping the podcast continue to grow.

    Want to sponsor or dedicate an episode? Reach out to Chavie on Instagram or by email at chaviebruk@gmail.com.

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    1 Std. und 48 Min.
  • David Aaron's Story: Kabbalah Demystified - The Science of Judaism
    Sep 22 2026

    Rabbi David Aaron tells Chavie about growing up in Toronto hearing his Holocaust-survivor mother scream in her sleep, and questioning how G-d could be good amid so much suffering. He describes feeling the “oy” rather than the joy of being Jewish and using rock and roll and comedy to drown out those questions, before discovering NCSY, Shabbos with friends, Chabad, and finally going to a yeshiva in Jerusalem. Rabbi Aaron shares how he discovered Kabbalah at a young age which unlocked for the "science" for how Judaism works. He also shared how a near-stranger insisted she knew his soulmate, despite the cultural and language differences between him and Chana; after an awkward first date, they tried again and have been married for 42 years. Chavie returns to the childhood pain that shaped his work, opening a conversation about Judaism’s “branding problem” and Chana’s insight during labor that “pain with purpose is power.”

    Rabbi David Aaron is a renowned educator, author, and Rosh Yeshiva of Orayta in the Old City of Jerusalem. He is the author of several influential books, including The Secret Life of God, Seeing God, Living a Joyous Life, and Soul Powered Prayers. His teachings focus on the deeper foundations of emunah, tefillah, and personal growth, making profound Torah ideas clear, practical, and deeply relevant.

    This Week's Prompt There is no prompt this episode and next due to the holidays but we will resume right after!

    Listen to voice notes from listeners at the end of every episode with their personal stories and reflections on a given prompt.

    Referenced On the Pod

    • 29:20 Night by Elie Weisel
    • 23:30 Chavie’s grandfather, Dr. Yitzchok Block
    • 45:15 Rabbi Noah Weinberg, founder of Aish HaTorah
    • 52:27 The Road Less Traveled by Dr. M. Scott Peck
    • Further Along the Road Less Traveled by Dr. M. Scott Peck
    • 1:12:36 “The Pangs of Cleansing” by Rabbi Abraham Isaac Kook

    Stay in touch with David Aaron

    https://rabbidavidaaron.com/

    https://www.instagram.com/davidaaron613

    https://www.youtube.com/@RabbiDavidAaron

    Stay in touch with Chavie @chaviebruk on Instagram www.totallyunexpected.blog Totally Unexpected! on Youtube

    This episode is dedicated to the loving memory of Rabbi David Aaron’s beloved granddaughter, Nechalya, who tragically lost her life in a car accident while traveling as a passenger a few months ago.

    Want to sponsor or dedicate an episode? Reach out to Chavie on Instagram or by email at chaviebruk@gmail.com.

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    1 Std. und 29 Min.
  • Shevach Tamir's Story: Parenting Through Trauma
    Sep 7 2026

    Shevach tells Chavie about growing up in Miami Beach as the youngest of seven, sometimes feeling like an only child, but later recognizing the freedom and attention he received as the youngest. He and Chavie compare that with her experience as the oldest of nine, and Chavie describes the many ways her son feels different: the only boy among four sisters, Black, adopted, and the only Jewish child in his class. Shevach talks about validating the pain of feeling alone before trying to help a child see what makes them unique. He then tells Chavie about a broken engagement which showed him how little he trusted his own voice and led him to start separating personality from dysfunction. They move into the overlooked “easy” child and Shevach’s belief that trauma leaves a mark even when someone appears resilient. Shevach shares how his young nephew drowned in the family pool when Shevach was seven, and how that grief resurfaced years later when he panicked over an unlocked balcony door near his own son. Shevach traces his path from hiding a guitar inside his yeshiva mattress and starting a Chassidic rock band to studying psychology, developing sports social work, and creating the WISE Parenting Method. Chavie asks what his approach looks like for parents. They close on the uncomfortable reality that parents and children are not always naturally compatible, but does not mean you do not love them.

    Shevach Tamir LCSW, Parenting and Trauma Therapist, is a seasoned clinician with over a decade of experience supporting individuals, parents, and families within the Jewish community. He specializes in parenting therapy, family therapy, and trauma-informed care. Shevach is deeply committed to empowering parents, helping them feel confident, understood, and supported in their role, because parents matter too. His approach is warm, respectful, and grounded in a culturally sensitive, Torah-aligned perspective, creating a space where parents feel safe, seen, and supported as they navigate growth and healing.

    This Week's Prompt Tell Me One Thing You Feel Astrology Gets Right About Your Personality

    Listen to voice notes from listeners at the end of every episode with their personal stories and reflections on a given prompt.

    Referenced On the Pod

    • 2:29 Aura Rosenblatt' podcast Divine Detour
    • 15:09 The Billion Dollar Secret, Rafael Badziag

    Stay in touch with Shevach @wiseparenting_official on Instagram

    www.onthebeachcounseling.com/parenting-therapy/

    Book a Free 15 Minute Initial Consultation

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    Join Wise Parenting Hub - WhatsApp Group

    Send an email with your name and number to Hello@WiseParentingMethod.com

    Light of Shneur Initiative - Almost Free Parenting Therapy

    Hello@BetterParentingTherapy.com

    Stay in touch with Chavie @chaviebruk on Instagram www.totallyunexpected.blog Totally Unexpected! on Youtube

    Want to sponsor or dedicate an episode? Reach out to Chavie on Instagram or by email at chaviebruk@gmail.com.

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    2 Std. und 28 Min.
  • Naomi Salfati's Story: AstroTorah - Reclaiming Nature's Manual
    Aug 24 2026

    Naomi starts off by telling Chavie how she became an artist, why she was drawn to Hebrew letters, and how studying Jewish mysticism eventually led her into astrology. She explains why she considers herself a student of astrology rather than an astrologer. Chavie asks Naomi to break down the basics, including sun, moon, and rising signs, and because the interview happens to fall on Chavie’s birthday, Naomi uses her chart to do a full live reading. Along the way, Naomi shares her view that astrology was taken from us as part of our disconnection from God and nature, while Chavie explains why she sees a birth chart as a handbook from Hashem that can help people understand their strengths, struggles, and what they are here to do. Chavie asks how astrology fits with the Jewish belief in free will, and Naomi explains the difference between having a mazal and having a fixed destiny. They end with Chavie asking Naomi for her favorite and worst thing about each of the twelve signs.

    Naomi Salfati is a Hebrew letter artist and the founder of AstroTorah, where she bridges Kabbalah, astrology, and psychology to help people better understand themselves and their life's purpose.

    This Week's Prompt Tell me about something you’re scared to do and what’s holding you back?

    Listen to voice notes from listeners at the end of every episode with their personal stories on a given prompt.

    Referenced On the Pod

    • 11:42:00 Mendel Zirkind’s interview with Chavie
    • 1:18:35 find your chart on Astro.com

    Stay in touch with Naomi! instagram.com/astrotorahwww.astrotorah.com Book a reading with Naomi here: https://astro-torah.as.me/schedule/56d76640

    Stay in touch with Chavie! @chaviebruk on Instagram www.totallyunexpected.blog Totally Unexpected! on Youtube

    Want to sponsor or dedicate an episode? Reach out to Chavie on Instagram or by email at chaviebruk@gmail.com.

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    2 Std. und 20 Min.
  • Dena Schusterman's Story: Facing the Stories I Carry
    Aug 10 2026

    Dena Schusterman tells Chavie about growing up on shlichus, first in Berkeley and then Albuquerque, where her childhood was filled with skiing, wide-open landscapes, and saying the Twelve Pesukim into the New Mexico canyons. When her older sister struggled after being sent away for school, Dena’s parents made the difficult decision to leave shlichus and move their family to Los Angeles, where nine-year-old Dena felt like “Moshiach came” when she discovered kosher restaurants, friends, and an actual frum community. Years later, Dena would find herself wrestling with the same question of when to leave and when to stay: she and her husband planned to move to Russia, tried unsuccessfully to find shlichus in California, and eventually landed in Atlanta, where they chose to remain even when leaving became a real possibility. She and Chavie talk about the courage required to make a choice and own it, and Dena pushes back on the polished image of Shluchos as superwomen who are always saving everyone else, asking, “Who’s saving us?” and arguing that Chabad’s success should not come at the expense of acknowledging the real struggles, doubts, and humanity of the people doing the work. That same refusal to sanitize the story became central to Dena’s new memoir, Stories Carry. She originally wanted to preserve her father’s stories after hearing one of them told publicly without his name because he was no longer a Shliach, but quickly discovered that she couldn’t tell his story without telling her own. Dena shares how the eight-year writing process forced her to stop sermonizing, trust the reader, and become more emotionally vulnerable, including reckoning with the emotional repression she inherited from her Holocaust-survivor grandparents. She and Chavie also talk about Dena’s decision not to write a hagiography, the difference between loving something and pretending it is perfect, and why telling the truth about the people and world that shaped her ultimately became an expression of love rather than a departure from it.

    Dena Schusterman founded Chabad Intown in Atlanta, where she has built a thriving community as an educator, preschool director, and teacher. She writes about parenting and applied Torah thought for publications including Kveller, Chabad.org, Groknation, Ami Magazine and the Atlanta Jewish Times. A mother of eight and native Californian, she and her husband Rabbi Eliyahu Schusterman have called Atlanta home for twenty years. Stories Carry is her debut memoir.

    This Week's Prompt Tell me about a religious practice that you realized was driven by fear or anxiety?

    Listen to voice notes from listeners with their personal stories and reactions on a given prompt at the end of every episode.

    Referenced On the Pod

    • 1:07:32 Rabbi YY Jacobson’s Weekly Women’s Class
    • 1:10:40 Dena’s ELI Talk
    • 1:14:09 Chabad.org article about Dena’s father
    • 1:38:26 The Covenant of Water by Abraham Verghese
    • 2:00:32 Paulo Coelho

    Stay in touch with Dena! https://www.denaschusterman.com/

    Stay in touch with Chavie! @chaviebruk on Instagram www.totallyunexpected.blog Totally Unexpected! on Youtube

    Want to sponsor or dedicate an episode? Reach out to Chavie on Instagram or by email at chaviebruk@gmail.com.

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    2 Std. und 18 Min.
  • Julia Makowsky's Story: When Religion Becomes Anxiety + EP 50 BONUS
    Jul 27 2026
    Julia Makowsky grew up in Los Angeles with baal teshuvah parents who became increasingly passionate about Torah as she was growing up, while Julia often felt that she was simply along for the ride. Although she had an innate spiritual connection from a young age, she struggled to make Judaism feel like her own. By the time she had her third child, she had taken on more and more religious practices out of fear, believing that if she did not daven enough or observe everything perfectly, Hashem might punish her or take away her children. When her rabbi finally told her, “That is not Torah. That is anxiety,” Julia began breaking down the way she had been practicing and rebuilding a relationship with God that felt personal, chosen, and peaceful. She and Chavie talk about what it means to find your own religious baseline, why other people’s standards can pull us away from our own values, and how Chavie’s baseline in raising five adopted children is always attachment and safety. Julia shares that she knew she wanted to become a therapist from the time she was eight years old because of how deeply she felt other people’s emotions. She opens up about growing up as an empath, the emotional scar tissue she developed after being hurt and abused, and what she later had to learn as a therapist about separating her clients’ feelings from her own and not helping them through the lens of her personal wounds. She then explains why she added coaching to her work, describing therapy as a space where the practitioner asks the questions that help a client arrive at their own answers, while coaching allows her to be more direct, identify concrete steps, and help someone move toward a specific outcome. Julia and Chavie talk about why both approaches matter, why coaching cannot replace the processing that sometimes needs to happen first, and why the right practitioner may look different for each person. They close by asking when healing becomes another form of avoidance, why constant self-reflection and optimization can leave us perpetually dissatisfied, and whether feeling calm, not endlessly striving, is a better sign that something in our lives is actually working. Julia K. Makowsky is a licensed therapist, coach, speaker, content creator, and host of Tribe & Tribulations. Known for her honest, relatable, and compassionate approach, Julia blends professional expertise with real-life experience to explore mental health, relationships, identity, parenting, faith, and personal growth. Through her therapy practice, speaking engagements, social platforms, and podcast, she creates meaningful conversations that bridge communities, reduce stigma, and help people feel seen, understood, and empowered. This Week's Prompt CELEBRATING EPISODE 50! Which guests do you want to hear from in the voice note section? These are the guests listeners said they want to hear from and have submitted voice notes: Chaim Bruk, Sara Miriam Smith, Sarah Immerman, Moshe Weinbaum, Shaina Wiess, Aura Rosenblatt, Brochie Spritzer Referenced On the Pod 7:10 Tom Segura podcast 7:10 Tiger Belly podcast 8:05 Yitzhak Pinkesz, Author of Kosher Astrology on Julia’s podcast 8:55 Gedale Fenster 8:59 Charlie Harary 45:47 Chavie’s Tanya Class, Clearing the MudSara Miriam Smith's episode on Totally Unexpected!Moshe Weinbaum's episode on Totally Unexpected!Sarah Immerman's episode on Totally Unexpected!Shaina Wiess's episode on Totally Unexpected!Chaim Bruk's episode on Totally Unexpected!Brochie Spritzer's episode on Totally Unexpected!Aura Rosenblatt's episode on Totally Unexpected! Stay in touch with Julia! Julia on Instagram https://jkmakowsky.com https://www.youtube.com/@juliakmakowsky Stay in touch with Chavie! @chaviebruk on Instagram www.totallyunexpected.blog Totally Unexpected! on Youtube Want to sponsor or dedicate an episode? Reach out to Chavie on Instagram or by email at chaviebruk@gmail.com.
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    2 Std. und 11 Min.