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  • Discussion #1 at the Platonic Space Symposium
    Jan 21 2026

    This is a ~1 hour 40 minute discussion among contributors to the Platonic Space Hypothesis (https://thoughtforms.life/symposium-on-the-platonic-space/)

    CHAPTERS:

    (00:00) Math, identity and realms

    (16:08) Convergence, abstraction and attractors

    (34:05) Attractors, stress and observers

    (41:29) Realms, impossibility and simulation

    (51:40) Simulation, explanation and understanding

    (01:04:39) Mind everywhere and agency

    (01:19:19) Content, communication and creativity

    (01:30:42) Boundaries, scale and space

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    Blog: https://thoughtforms.life

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    1 Std. und 41 Min.
  • Conversation 1 with Mijail Serruya, Alessandro Napoli, and Wesley Clawson
    Jan 18 2026

    This is a ~1 hour conversation with (including a short talk by) Mijail Serruya (https://research.jefferson.edu/labs/researcher/serruya-research.html), Alessandro Napoli (https://www.linkedin.com/in/alessandro-napoli-8383a164/), and Wes Clawson (https://allencenter.tufts.edu/wesley-clawson-staff-scientist/). We talk about brain-body-machine interfaces, the clinical aspects and the deeper conceptual connections.

    CHAPTERS:

    (00:00) Introductions and BCI vision

    (16:32) Platypus-inspired brain augmentation

    (24:28) Plasticity, aging, and models

    (39:37) Self-organizing neural interfaces

    (49:58) Hypnosis, regeneration, and BCIs

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    Twitter: https://x.com/drmichaellevin

    Blog: https://thoughtforms.life

    The Levin Lab: https://drmichaellevin.org


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    59 Min.
  • Conversation 1 w/ Lisa Barrett, Ben Lyons, Eli Sennesh, Jordan Theriault-Brown, and Karen Quigley
    Jan 17 2026

    This is a discussion with with Lisa Feldman Barrett (https://scholar.google.com/citations?user=WF5c0_8AAAAJ&hl=en), Benjamin Lyons (https://interestingessays.substack.com/), Eli Sennesh (https://scholar.google.com/citations?user=3z4ALYgAAAAJ), Jordan Theriault-Brown (http://www.jordan-theriault.com/), and Karen Quigley (https://scholar.google.com/citations?user=aZ3qhVUAAAAJ&hl=en) about topics related to allostasis and top-down control across cognitive science and developmental biology.

    CHAPTERS:

    (00:00) Framing interdisciplinary synthesis

    (03:18) Bioelectric collective intelligence

    (16:00) Constraints versus bioelectric memory

    (20:06) Neurodevelopment and allostasis

    (27:10) Plasticity and dirty genomes

    (35:59) Relational structure and constraints

    (40:24) Agency across biological scales

    (45:04) Goal-like molecular networks

    (48:49) Allostasis and control hierarchies

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    Twitter: https://x.com/drmichaellevin

    Blog: https://thoughtforms.life

    The Levin Lab: https://drmichaellevin.org


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    56 Min.
  • "Evolution and Intelligence: inversion and a positive feedback spiral" by Michael Levin
    Jan 15 2026

    This is a ~50 minute video on evolution from the perspective of diverse intelligence. I discuss 3 main things: the nature of the mapping between genotype and phenotype (an intelligent, problem-solving process that interprets genomic prompts, not simply a complex mechanical mapping), the implications for evolution of operating over such a multi-scale agential material, and a few recent findings about the origin of the intelligence spiral taking place before differential replication dynamics kick in.

    Editing by https://x.com/DNAMediaEditing

    CHAPTERS:

    (00:00) Framing evolution and intelligence

    (06:26) Morphogenesis as collective intelligence

    (12:06) Regeneration and downward causation

    (16:10) Bioelectric patterning and memory

    (21:05) Reprogrammable adaptive anatomies

    (26:06) Interpretation, plasticity and evolution

    (31:58) Competent matter and evolvability

    (35:45) Novel beings and emergence

    (41:54) Prebiotic learning and agency

    (46:43) Mind beyond life

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    Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7JCmtoeH53neYyZeOZ6ym5

    Twitter: https://x.com/drmichaellevin

    Blog: https://thoughtforms.life

    The Levin Lab: https://drmichaellevin.org


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    50 Min.
  • “The Unreasonable Effectiveness of the Behavioral Sciences in Developmental Biology and Biomedicine”
    Dec 11 2025

    This is a ~46 minute talk by Michael Levin titled “The Unreasonable Effectiveness of the Behavioral Sciences in Developmental Biology and Biomedicine” given at a developmental biology/bioengineering symposium, explaining the connections between the cognitive/behavioral sciences and the study of morphogenesis, from the lens of our framework and new technology.

    CHAPTERS:

    (00:00) Behavioral Science Foundations

    (05:57) Agential Cells And Morphospace

    (10:47) Goal Directed Regeneration Examples

    (18:16) Bioelectric Pattern Memories

    (23:32) Exploring Morphological Plasticity

    (31:54) Learning Regeneration And Cancer

    (36:10) Novel Bioengineered Living Machines

    (41:22) Future Minds And Ethics

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    Blog: https://thoughtforms.life

    The Levin Lab: https://drmichaellevin.org


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    47 Min.
  • Discussion #1 with Katrina Schleisman and David Burke
    Dec 10 2025

    This is a ~54 minute conversation with Katrina Schleisman (https://www.galois.com/team/katrina-schleisman) and David Burke (https://www.galois.com/team/david-burke) about issues related to memory, Platonism, diverse intelligence, and similar topics.

    CHAPTERS:

    (00:00) Paper comments and impetus

    (01:38) Math-physics causal dualism

    (06:19) Unreasonable effectiveness and foundations

    (12:54) Active Platonic patterns learning

    (19:36) Verbs, affordances, pattern agency

    (29:04) Math gifts before evolution

    (35:43) Cognition, life, and idealism

    (43:21) Hidden messages and memory

    (47:42) Resonant patterns, chance, synchronicity

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    Blog: https://thoughtforms.life

    The Levin Lab: https://drmichaellevin.org


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    55 Min.
  • Conversation with David Resnik 1
    Dec 1 2025

    This is a ~52 minute conversation with philosopher David Resnik (https://www.niehs.nih.gov/research/resources/bioethics/bioethicist) about the Platonic Space model and our plan for a new paper about a different variant of it than what I've been writing so far.

    CHAPTERS:

    (00:00) Morphogenesis and latent space

    (15:19) Platonism's scientific utility

    (27:06) Explanation, models, morphospace

    (36:51) Models, journals, writing

    (43:33) Mathematical patterns in evolution

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    Twitter: https://x.com/drmichaellevin

    Blog: https://thoughtforms.life

    The Levin Lab: https://drmichaellevin.org


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    53 Min.
  • Discussion #1 with Elan Barenholtz
    Nov 30 2025

    This is a ~57 minute discussion with Elan Barenholtz (https://mpcrlab.com/people/Elan-Barenholtz/) about language and its possible autonomy in brains, AI models, and other systems linking to our lab's work on active data and the thoughts-thinkers continuum.

    CHAPTERS:

    (00:00) Language As Auto-Generator

    (21:14) Virtual Governors In Physiology

    (30:37) Mathematics, Metaphysics, Free Lunches

    (40:40) Language Models As Evidence

    (49:46) Minimal Systems, Language Criteria

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    Blog: https://thoughtforms.life

    The Levin Lab: https://drmichaellevin.org


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    58 Min.