• (00:00) - Welcome to the show
• (00:39) - Salma officially joins as a host
• (01:56) - Two cities: who’s going where
• (03:11) - What is Sage Future for Partners?
• (03:56) - The Canadian contingent
• (07:26) - What PKO is really about
• (09:05) - Can’t-miss session: Women in Tech Leadership Breakfast
• (11:21) - Must-sees: main stage, X3, and HCM
• (13:47) - Attending both events and how regions differ
• (15:50) - Which event is more fun?
• (17:25) - Advice for newer partners
• (19:30) - Bold predictions: a shift in how Sage goes to market
• (20:54) - Speed to launch and faster implementations
• (22:14) - Cheaper implementations vs value
• (22:51) - From a three-horse race to eight
• (25:11) - Using AI and why data matters
• (26:34) - Doug’s dad joke
• (27:21) - Wrap-up: see you in Atlanta and Amsterdam

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There’s a new voice at the UnSage table. Salma Kaida, partner at nuvemXP, joins Doug and Matt from Edmonton to make the show officially international. A former controller who found her calling onboarding acquisitions onto Sage Intacct, Salma explains why 75% of implementation work is people, why she can’t stand the word ERP, and why finance teams should stop being married to their history. She also reveals what US companies can learn from Canada’s approach to recoverable tax.

• (00:00) - Welcome: a new voice at the table
• (01:24) - Selling Canada in 30 seconds
• (04:10) - From controller to Sage Intacct consultant
• (06:27) - How nuvemXP started
• (07:46) - Sage conferences and Atlanta
• (09:40) - Why Salma hates the word ERP
• (13:13) - Listen first: 75% of the job is people
• (15:35) - Helping risk-averse accountants embrace change
• (16:40) - From QuickBooks and Sage 50 to multi-entity
• (19:43) - Don't be married to your history
• (22:29) - Where the industry is heading
• (24:31) - What US teams can learn from Canada
• (27:34) - Salma turns the tables on Matt and Doug
• (30:53) - Dream guests and the Sage roadmap
• (35:24) - One thing to do before you talk to a vendor
• (36:47) - The terrible mom joke and wrap up

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Stuart Langer, Deputy CTO at Sage, says the biggest hidden cost of AI in finance is the time spent checking its work, which he calls the verification tax. A CPA by training, Stuart joins Doug and Matt to explain why AI tools that show their work beat flashy features, and what that means for finance jobs from staff accountant to CFO. He also makes a bold prediction about how accounting software will be built in the next six months.

• (00:00) - Podcast Welcome
• (00:38) - Meet Stuart Langer
• (01:47) - Why He Returned
• (03:58) - CPA To Tech Journey
• (10:11) - Teaching Future Accountants
• (12:46) - Understanding Verification Tax
• (15:38) - Building Trustworthy AI
• (18:21) - Humans In The Loop
• (21:19) - How Finance Jobs Shift
• (24:07) - Telemetry And Outliers
• (26:42) - AP Automation With AI
• (27:18) - Free OCR Changes AP
• (28:19) - Glass Box Versus Black Box
• (28:58) - IDC Trust Research
• (30:43) - Audit Trails Matter
• (31:32) - Teaching AI Fundamentals
• (33:51) - Chatbots Need Controls
• (36:45) - Differentiating ERP Trust
• (38:48) - Nonprofit Audit Agent
• (40:03) - Explaining AI At Scale
• (43:53) - Fiction In Training Data
• (46:42) - Six Month Agent Marketplaces
• (49:40) - Key Takeaways And Wrap

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