Welcome to the Social-Engineer Podcast: The 4th Monday Series with Chris Hadnagy and Mike Holfeld. Chris and Mike will be covering cutting edge global news to help people remain safe, secure and knowledgeable in a world where it is hard to know what is real and what is fake news.

Today Chris and Mike are joined by Bobby Knost. Bobby is a proud member of the Iron Workers Local Union 808, which represents workers across eight counties in Central Florida. He has been a Union Iron Worker since 1985 and currently serves as the Business Manager of Local 808, a position he has held since June of 2018. [Aug 25, 2025]

00:00 - Intro

00:16 - Mike Holfeld Intro

01:02 - Today's Guest: Bobby Knost

01:28 - Let's Start with "Why?"

02:44 - Just Give Me a Chance

04:19 - The Union Advantage

06:13 - Journey to Journeyman

07:21 - What Do I Do?

- https://www.ironworkers808.com/

08:21 - Building Something

12:01 - An Act of Attrition

15:32 - Paying It Forward

17:39 - You're Gonna Want to Go Up!

19:16 - Google "Union Iron Workers"

20:17 - The Work is There

24:13 - Be A Cadillac

25:58 - Wrap Up

26:53 - Honoring Brother Mike

28:56 - Outro

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- www.innocentlivesfoundation.org

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Today on the Social-Engineer Podcast: The Security Awareness Series, Chris is joined by Jowan Joseph. Chris and Jowan discuss the importance of effective communication, role adaptation, and the psychological aspects of crisis situations. The discussion emphasizes the need for proactive preparedness and building trust within teams to navigate challenges effectively. [Aug 18, 2025]

00:00 - Intro

00:32 - Jowan Joseph Intro

00:44 - New Format

01:24 - Intro Links:

- Social-Engineer.com - http://www.social-engineer.com/

- Managed Voice Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/vishing-service/

- Managed Email Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/se-phishing-service/

- Adversarial Simulations - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/social-engineering-penetration-test/

- Social-Engineer channel on SLACK - https://social-engineering-hq.slack.com/ssb

- CLUTCH - http://www.pro-rock.com/

- innocentlivesfoundation.org - http://www.innocentlivesfoundation.org/

03:08 - Tabletop...Child's Play

04:36 - Phase One: Assigning Roles

07:11 - Going Rogue

08:05 - Measuring Tone

09:22 - A Few More Twists

09:57 - Some Heads Are Gonna Roll

10:41 - Communication Breakdown

12:17 - Post Mortem

13:44 - Alignment at Scale

14:57 - Divide and Conquer... Together

17:31 - Proactive Instead of Reactive

20:21 - The Communication Gap

21:22 - Trust Factor

22:15 - Wrap Up & Outro

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- www.innocentlivesfoundation.org