In this final episode of The Nine Design, hosts Seth and Sarina reflect on their journey through five seasons of exploring the Enneagram and its impact on personal growth, mental health, and spirituality. They discuss highlights from the season, insights gained from special guests, and practical tools for wholistic wellbeing. The conversation emphasises the importance of reflection, curiosity, and kindness in understanding oneself and others, while also looking back at the overarching themes of the podcast and the transformative power of the Enneagram as a tool for growth.

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In Part 2 of our conversation with Nate McCord, we go around the full Enneagram circle exploring how ADHD uniquely shows up in each type.

From perfectionism and procrastination to emotional flooding, rumination, hyperfocus and creativity, Nate unpacks how ADHD often amplifies what’s already happening in our personality - for better and for worse.

This episode is packed with practical insight, compassion, and hope for anyone navigating ADHD, supporting someone who is, or wanting deeper self-understanding through the Enneagram.

If you haven’t listened to Part 1 yet, we recommend starting here

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Nate McCord

• Nate McCord Coaching: ⁠https://natemccordcoaching.com⁠

• ADD Coach Academy (ADCA): ⁠https://addca.com⁠

Enneagram Coaching & Spiritual Direction:

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In this episode of The Nine Design, Sarina and Seth are joined by ADHD coach, Enneagram practitioner, and neurodiversity advocate Nate McCord for a rich and compassionate conversation about the ADHD brain.

Nate shares his own journey of late diagnosis, shame, and self-understanding, and helps us unpack the difference between neurodivergence and mental health. We explore executive function, dopamine regulation, emotional resilience, and how ADHD can show up differently across the Enneagram types—especially through the lens of the Head Centre.

This episode is especially meaningful for parents, caregivers, leaders, and anyone navigating ADHD, anxiety, or a highly self-critical inner world.

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Nate McCord

• Nate McCord Coaching: https://natemccordcoaching.com

• ADD Coach Academy (ADCA): https://addca.com

Enneagram Coaching & Spiritual Direction:

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Buy Me a Coffee- Seth's page for updates and information: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠buymeacoffee.com/Seth.creator⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

⁠⁠⁠Barefoot Bros Music⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ - Available on Spotify and other platforms.

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Sarina and Seth sit down with leadership coach and neuro-affirming practitioner Kathryn Martens, founder of Release Leadership. Kathryn shares her own recent ADHD diagnosis, her journey supporting neurodivergent leaders, and why traditional leadership models often fail those with “spicy brains.”

We talk about the rise in global neurodivergence awareness, the difference between neurodivergence and mental health, and why psychological safety is now legally mandated for Australian workplaces. Kathryn also explores how leaders can integrate head, heart and body intelligence, avoid burnout, and create healthier, more human work cultures.

If you're a leader, neurodivergent, parenting kids with unique wiring, or simply curious about how different brains experience the world, this conversation is full of clarity, compassion, and practical wisdom.

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Book a complimentary call with Kathryn: https://www.releaseleadership.au/booking-calendar/meeting-or-session-with-kathryn

Enneagram Coaching & Spiritual Direction:

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Buy Me a Coffee- Seth's page for updates and information: ⁠⁠⁠⁠buymeacoffee.com/Seth.creator⁠⁠⁠⁠

⁠⁠Barefoot Bros Music⁠⁠⁠⁠ - Available on Spotify and other platforms.

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In this rich and thoughtful conversation, Sarina sits down with philosopher, author, and co-host of the Around the Circle podcast, Jeff Cook, to explore one of the most overlooked layers of the Enneagram: time orientation.

Jeff unpacks how each type takes in the world and responds to it through the past, present, or future - shaping everything from our anxieties to our relational patterns. We talk about the Head Centre, mental health, meaning-making, parenting through the lens of type, and what happens when philosophy, faith, and the Enneagram collide.

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Jeff Cook

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Around the Circle - an Enneagram Book

Enneagram Coaching & Spiritual Direction:

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Buy Me a Coffee- Seth's page for updates and information: ⁠⁠⁠buymeacoffee.com/Seth.creator⁠⁠⁠

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What happens when life is “betwixt and in-between”? In this episode, Seth and Sarina talk with freelance wisdom educator, pastoral supervisor, spiritual director, and Enneagram Type Five Dr Bruce Hulme about liminal spaces, reflective practice, and the Head Centre.

Bruce shares his journey through redundancy, anxiety, and deep transition, and how images like the labyrinth and chrysalis helped him discover contemplative friendship with God.

They unpack:

• Why “talking the walk” (reflective practice) matters
• How Head Centre types move from calculation to curiosity
• Gentle invitations for each Enneagram type in liminal seasons

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Enneagram Coaching & Spiritual Direction:

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This special bonus episode features Christian psychologist Chuck DeGroat and packs a lot into just 12 minutes:

• A brief, clear explanation of narcissism

• A flyover of how narcissism shows up across all nine Enneagram types

• and what Chuck has learned about narcissism since publishing When Narcissism Comes to Church (2020)

What does true self-care look like beneath the surface?

In this conversation with Professor, Author, Therapist, and Spiritual Director Chuck DeGroat, we explore what lies beyond the quick fixes and polished versions of self-care. Chuck invites us into a deeper understanding of healing - one that begins with honesty, self-compassion, and the courage to face what’s within.

Together, we talk about the journey of coming home to God, integrating faith and psychology, and why spiritual formation is as much about unlearning old patterns as it is about growth.

If you’re in a hard season, hitting a wall, or walking through a dark night of the soul, Chuck offers a gentle invitation - to move from curiosity to connection, and to discover God’s kindness in the midst of it all.

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Book - Healing What's Within on Amazon

chuckdegroat.net

Enneagram Coaching & Spiritual Direction:

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Buy Me a Coffee- Seth's page for updates and information: ⁠buymeacoffee.com/Seth.creator⁠

⁠Barefoot Bros Music⁠ - Available on Spotify and other platforms.

The Nine Design Enneagram T-shirts: ⁠4th Seed Designs⁠

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