Most people believe insight alone creates transformation.

But insight without daily practice fades—and self-sabotage takes over.

In this episode of The Mark Divine Show, Mark sits down with Shirzad Chamine, New York Times bestselling author of Positive Intelligence and one of the world’s leading experts on mental fitness, leadership performance, and mindset mastery.

Shirzad shares his journey from a traumatic childhood marked by generational rage and depression to building a globally recognized framework used by Fortune 100 companies, Stanford faculty, and over two million leaders worldwide.

Together, they unpack:

- Why high performers sabotage themselves under pressure

-The 10 mental “Saboteurs” that destroy wellbeing, performance, and relationships

- Why workshops and motivation don’t create lasting change

- How to rewire the brain through short, daily mental fitness practices

- The difference between insight and transformation

- How to shift from fear-based reactions to calm, focused, purposeful action

This conversation bridges neuroscience, leadership, spirituality, and practical tools you can use in the middle of real life, not just in meditation or reflection.

If you want more clarity, resilience, and control over how you show up under stress—this episode gives you a repeatable system to build it.

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Inspirational Quote:

“Most feelings of stress, anxiety, frustration, disappointment, regret, and guilt are the direct results of judging yourself, others, situations, or outcomes.” - Shirzad Chamine

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Timestamps:

00:00 Growing Up in Tehran: A Story of Poverty and Fear

00:56 The Unbeatable Leader Challenge: Transform Your Mind

01:22 Welcome to the Mark Divine Show

01:44 Introducing Shazad Shain: A Journey of Positive Intelligence

02:29 Shazad's Early Life: Overcoming Fear and Depression

06:03 The Whisper That Guided Shazad's Life

08:03 The Importance of Daily Practices for Transformation

09:25 The Unbeatable Tribe: Whole Person Integration

13:08 Understanding Mental Fitness and Emotional Resiliency

14:55 Shazad's Pivotal Moment: From Visionary Leader to Humiliation

18:12 Discovering the Saboteurs: Fear-Based Voices

27:16 The Universality of Saboteurs Across Cultures

29:08 Identifying and Managing Your Saboteurs

32:47 Identifying and Understanding Saboteurs

33:14 Introducing the Sage and Its Superpowers

35:15 Three-Step Process to Combat Saboteurs

38:13 The WIRM Process and Rewiring the Brain

41:18 Practical Techniques for Mindfulness and Self-Command

46:20 Visualization Techniques for Compassion and Healing

50:50 Sage Perspective and the Power of Positive Intelligence

56:47 Scaling Positive Intelligence Through Technology

01:02:31 Conclusion and Final Thoughts

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Mark Divine and Bill Murphy share insights on cultivating a warrior mindset and building mental toughness, essential for effective leadership strategies. This episode explores the principles of navy seal leadership and how to embrace resilience training. Discover how to integrate high performance habits into your daily routine for personal and professional growth, aligning with the unbeatable mind philosophy.

Bill shares how his worst business year in nearly three decades forced a deeper internal reckoning—and why pursuing extreme physical challenges, including seven marathons on seven continents in seven days, became a catalyst for inner transformation rather than ego-driven achievement.

This conversation goes far beyond endurance sports.

Together, they explore:

-Why most goals fail without a strong emotional “why”

-How to build a bag of whys that sustains commitment under pressure

-The mental frameworks that eliminate quitting without suppressing emotion

-How breath control, mindset, micro-goals, and service to others work together

-Why growth requires both individual strength and team connection

-The difference between suffering that builds you and suffering that breaks you

If you’re a leader, entrepreneur, or high performer navigating uncertainty—and you’re looking for a grounded way to stay disciplined, purposeful, and resilient—this episode provides a clear, actionable path forward.

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Timestamps:

00:00 Introduction: bubsnaturals.com Code: Unbeatable

01:13 Guest Introduction: Bill Murphy

01:38 Bill's Athletic Achievements

01:50 The Great World Race: 7 Marathons on 7 Continents

03:09 Mental and Physical Challenges of the Race

08:03 Training and Preparation Insights

12:04 Reflections on the Experience

18:46 Leadership and Mental Toughness

23:37 Understanding the 'Big I' and 'Little i'

24:19 The Importance of Knowing Your 'Why'

25:57 Heart vs. Ego in Overcoming Challenges

27:05 The Power of Teamwork and Character in SEAL Training

28:43 Balancing Individualism and Teamwork

31:17 Transforming Through Training and Resilience

37:40 Setting Goals and the FITS Model

46:09 The Importance of Continuous Challenges

48:58 Concluding Thoughts on Growth and Discipline

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What happens when life takes everything from you—and you’re forced to decide who you become next?

In this deeply moving conversation, Mark Divine sits down with Cody Lakefield, co-founder of Long Ship Men and Look Health, to explore the intersection of trauma, healing, proactive health, brotherhood, and purpose.

Cody shares his journey through profound personal loss, responsibility, and suffering—and how those experiences led him to build systems that help men reclaim ownership of their health, their inner lives, and their relationships with other men.

From personalized biomarker testing and preventative health… to grief, PTSD, faith, and the power of men rowing together… this episode is about moving from survival to meaning.

If you’re a leader, father, entrepreneur, or man navigating pressure in silence, this conversation offers a different path forward—one rooted in awareness, courage, and community.

In this episode, you’ll discover:

Why proactive health matters more than “sick care”

How understanding biomarkers gives you agency over your body

Why trauma doesn’t resolve itself through willpower alone

The danger of carrying everything in isolation

How brotherhood accelerates healing and resilience

Why purpose is often forged through suffering, not comfort

How to move from surviving life to living it intentionally

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Timestamps:

00:00 Introduction to the Biomarkers, LookHealth, Longship Men

00:38 Mark Divine's Leadership Challenge

01:28 Welcome to the Mark Divine Show

01:54 Introducing Cody Lakevold

02:52 Cody's Health Ventures

04:30 Challenges in Healthcare Access

06:39 Cody's Personal Journey Begins

12:38 Family Struggles and Personal Loss

20:32 Coping with Family Tragedies

40:31 Struggling with Nightmares and Suicidal Thoughts

42:16 Turning to Alcohol for Relief

43:41 Seeking Therapy and Finding Hope

45:35 Discovering MDMA Therapy

46:16 A Life-Changing MDMA Session

53:04 Rebuilding Life and Relationships

54:12 Creating Raven Lake Investments

01:00:05 The Birth of Long Ship

01:11:24 The Vision for Long Ship

01:21:03 Conclusion and Future Plans

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