In this episode, I sit down with Ben DeWalt of On Site Firearms Training and Erick Gelhaus of Cougar Mountain Solutions for an in-depth, no-nonsense discussion about firearms training, collaborative teaching, skill development, and the importance of a growth mindset on the range. Ben and Eric shared their experiences co-teaching pistol performance classes, how they balance speed and accuracy, the value of dry firing, and why ongoing education from other instructors is crucial for personal and professional growth.

We dove into everything from handling failure, identifying the most overrated gadgets in the gun world, to the role of ego in the firearms industry. Ben and Eric also highlighted why shotgun training is gaining traction, how to structure effective practice with time constraints, and the importance of adapting instructional methods to best serve students.

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• Collaborative teaching improves the experience and adaptability for both students and instructors 04:03

• Teaching plans should adapt to student needs, not stick rigidly to a curriculum 08:35

• Speed and accuracy in marksmanship are both essential; practice should develop the balance between them 22:03

• Recency of gun handling (dry practice) is more important than high-volume live fire for busy people 17:50

• Failure on the range is part of growth; learn from it rather than engage in negative self-talk 27:19

• Exposure to a range of teaching styles expands your ability to communicate and get through to different students 36:47

• Shotgun training is increasingly valuable for areas with restrictive laws on other long guns 01:08:49

• Most overrated piece of gear? Some say the shot timer—if you don’t know how to use it properly 01:15:59

• Don’t fall for industry dogma—experiment, adapt, and find what really works for you 01:19:32

• Stay vigilant: legislative threats to the Second Amendment are evolving, and urban/rural divides impact gun culture and rights 01:12:08

• Ben DeWalt On Site Firearms Training Website: OFTllc.us

• Erick Gelhaus Cougar Mountain Solutions Website: cougarmountainsolutions.com

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On this episode of The Gun Experiment, we chop it up with our regular in-studio guest, Frank Riess from Wallkill River Small Arms. We kick things off with some banter, dive into the latest 2A news (including Supreme Court rulings on gun rights and self-defense for marijuana users), and nerd out on everything from ballistic helmets to the fascinating history behind the Browning Superposed shotgun and military bayonets. We debate bathroom etiquette for dads with daughters, discuss defensive display laws, and talk about why America might just be the best place to live—especially if you love freedom, firearms, and good bourbon.

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• Browning Superposed Shotgun: Frank delved into the history and impact of John Moses Browning’s last design, a revolutionary over-under shotgun that’s become a symbol of American gun craftsmanship.

• Ballistic Helmets: We got hands-on with new Spartan Armor Systems ballistic helmets, discussed helmet sizing, and features for hunting, shooting, and tactical use.

• Supreme Court Updates: The Supreme Court struck down the so-called "vampire rule" and ruled in favor of Second Amendment rights for marijuana users, setting important new legal precedents.

• Microtech Knives: Frank highlighted the popularity and legalities of Microtech out-the-front knives for NY hunting and fishing.

• Gun Shop Trends: Demand for some non-lethal self-defense options (like the Burner) has cooled, while collectors are currently all about revolvers, .22s, and specialty knives.

• American Culture: Guests from around the world visiting the U.S. for the World Cup are loving the freedom and friendliness of American life.

• Defensive Display Laws: We talked about the differences between menacing and brandishing, and why a defensive display could be a legal gray area.

Frank Reiss

• Owner of Wallkill River Small Arms, Hudson Valley, NY

• Expert in firearms history, retail, and tactical products

• Friend of the show and regular in-studio guest

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"Technology will not make up for technique."

Welcome to another episode of The Gun Experiment! Big Keith and I are joined by the legendary Clint Smith—a Marine Corps veteran, former law enforcement officer, and foundational icon in the world of firearms training. In this episode, we talk about transitions in life, the importance of mental conditioning in gunfighting, what keeps Clint coming back to the range, and his philosophy on gear versus technique.

From lessons learned at Thunder Ranch to adapting to smaller, more intimate classes in Wyoming, Clint shares wisdom on being a lifelong student, the responsibility of gun ownership, and why our brains are the most important weapon we have. If you’ve ever wondered how to age gracefully in this industry, how to stay relevant, or what it really takes to prepare for the unexpected, this is a can’t-miss conversation.

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• OFT Firearms Training: Ben, Rachel, and the OFT crew offer top-notch training. Visit OFTLLC.us to find a class near you.

• Tool vs. Technique: Technology and new gear can’t replace solid fundamentals and continued practice.

• Teaching as a Lifelong Purpose: Sharing knowledge and seeing students’ lightbulb moments keep veteran instructors like Clint Smith returning to the range.

• Mental Conditioning: The most critical factor in surviving a violent encounter is the space between your ears. Practicing verbal skills, scenario planning, and keeping calm under pressure are just as important as marksmanship.

• Preparedness over Ego: Humility, logic, and self-reflection are vital both in life transitions and self-defense situations.

• Community Unity: The biggest threat to the Second Amendment is infighting and lack of solidarity within the firearms community. Stay united, whether your interest is sporting clays or AR-15s.

• Continuous Growth: There’s no room for laziness—keep learning, adapting, and contributing, no matter your age or stage in life.

Clint Smith is a Marine Corps veteran, former law enforcement officer, and legendary firearms instructor. He spent decades leading Thunder Ranch and now teaches in Cody, Wyoming through his Clint Smith Signature Series classes. Clint is also a prolific author, historian, and lifelong advocate for responsible gun ownership and training.

Find his current class schedule and updates at the Clint Smith Signature Series website (check the show notes for links).

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• responsible gun ownership

• Cody Wyoming shooting classes

• firearms instructor advice

• gear vs. technique

• situational awareness

• self-defense preparedness

In this episode of The Gun Experiment, we sit down with Peter Tilem, Second Amendment attorney and bourbon buddy, to chop it up on the latest legal battles, gun rights issues, and regulatory absurdities coming out of New York and beyond. We cover the implications of the new so-called “Glock ban,” why courts are so slow to tackle assault weapon and magazine bans, and New York’s relentless push for tighter firearm regulations—including a new three-day waiting period. We also dive into free speech rights in schools, the expanding use of AI surveillance in cities, and the dangers of proposed hunting and fishing bans.

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• New York’s “Glock ban” is more bark than bite but shows a continued legislative obsession with targeting gun owners.

• Waiting periods and carry insurance bans in NY are likely unconstitutional and face tough legal challenges post-Bruen decision.

• The courts are a slow, inefficient fix for bad laws—winning elections and being active in local politics is more effective.

• Selective law enforcement (both liberal and conservative) is a slippery slope and citizens can’t always rely on prosecutorial discretion for protection.

• Hunting and fishing rights are under political attack in some states—protecting these traditions requires active involvement and coalition-building.

• Surveillance technology and AI in cities continue to advance rapidly—at the expense of personal privacy and freedom.

Peter Tilem

• Founder of New York TAC Defense

• Second Amendment attorney with Tilem & Associates

• Learn more: newyorktacdefense.com

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In this episode, we sit down with Gage Moulding, the Vice President of HSM Ammunition, to talk about all things ammo. We dig deep into the science and consistency required to build truly reliable ammunition, the importance of family culture in a manufacturing business, and how real-world feedback from shooters shapes the products HSM produces. We also explore how the industry reacts to supply chain challenges, changing regulations, and technological advances. Whether you’re a competitive shooter, a hunter, or a casual range enthusiast, this episode delivers the kind of insider perspective you’ve always wanted on what it takes to put the highest quality rounds in your magazine.

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• OnSight Firearms Training (OFT): Real-world defensive shooting instruction by pros who walk the walk. Find a course that meets your needs at OFTLLC.us

• Modern factory ammo can rival handloads in consistency and performance due to advanced quality control systems.

• HSM’s company culture is built around family values and customer service, ensuring your concerns are addressed by real experts.

• Longevity among employees (loaders with 17+ years at HSM) brings unmatched institutional knowledge and consistent manufacturing processes.

• Supply chain disruptions (especially for powder and primers) remain the industry's biggest challenge. Preparedness (safety stock) is essential.

• Real-world feedback from hunters, competitors, and law enforcement directly influences new product development at HSM.

• Ammunition price increases reflect rising costs across the board, not higher profits for manufacturers.

• Not all calibers are created equal—find out why .44 Magnum is underrated and the myth behind "just fill it to the top" when reloading.

• Name: Gage Moulding

• Position: Vice President, HSM Ammunition

• Background: Former Army Officer, extensive experience in manufacturing and distribution, passionate about hunting, fishing, and shooting sports.

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In this episode, we sit down with Patrick Diedrich, the content director for Recoil Off Grid and a true outdoors and survival enthusiast. We chop it up about everything from homesteading inspiration and turning failures into learning opportunities, to behind-the-scenes stories from big events like Can-con, Amazonian adventures, and the quirkiest things we've eaten (including my encounter with balut!). We also weigh in on some hot 2A news, the ongoing cost-of-living debate, and our takes on DEI in the workplace. Plus, we tackle listener questions and debate the best places in the U.S. to homestead (tornadoes, ticks, and all).

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• Real-world experience and embracing failure are essential to mastering survival and preparedness.

• The gun community can learn a lot from discussing both our successes and shortcomings.

• The Can-con event featured not just guns, but off-grid skills like field dressing and chicken processing—sometimes requiring last-minute improvisation!

• Laws and regulations may influence firearm sales, but cultural and market forces play a huge part.

• Survival doesn’t have to mean “hardcore only”—don’t ignore modern tools and comforts when they make sense.

• DEI policies, hiring practices, and accountability in leadership sparked some spirited debate.

• The best place to homestead isn't just about price—natural disasters and local culture matter, too.

• Exotic foods like freshwater stingray and balut make for wild stories and lasting bonds!

Patrick Diedrich

• Content Director at Recoil Off Grid

• Survival skills adventurer and journalist

• Follow his adventures and insights at offgridweb.com and on social media

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In this episode, we sit down with Oregon-based artisan knife maker Levi Walusiak, owner of Lucky Walusiak Creations. We dive into the world of custom knife making, exploring the importance of quality craftsmanship, design philosophy, and what truly sets a great blade apart from the rest. We geek out over his most unique products (from blood straws to badass pizza cutters), geek out about materials and steel choices, and even swap classic family knife stories. If you’ve ever wondered what goes into building a reliable, functional, and beautiful blade—or you’re just a fan of cool gear—this episode is for you.

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• On Site Firearms Training: OFT has experienced instructors offering high-quality firearms training across the country. Visit OFTLLC.us for their course lineup.

• The difference between a good and a great knife often comes down to durability, edge retention, and thoughtful design tailored to real-world use.

• Custom knives are a labor of love—making one can take several days and involve intricate processes from material selection to heat treatment and handle shaping.

• Levi Walusiak balances both artistry and usability, frequently experimenting with new materials, splatter paint designs, and even wild kitchen tools (like pizza cutters and ice cream scoops).

• Regular knife maintenance—including proper sharpening and stropping—is crucial, and even high-end blades need TLC to perform at their best.

• The custom knife market has a thriving mix of collector and hard-use pieces, and Levi Walusiak's philosophy is to make his blades to be used, offering a lifetime warranty and free sharpening.

Levi Walusiak Owner, Lucky Walusiak Creations Oregon-based custom knife maker known for unique, high-performance blades and innovative kitchen tools.

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In this episode of The Gun Experiment, Big Keith and I team up for another round of Chopping It Up, joined by our returning guest, Todd Meeks, CEO of Spartan Armor Systems. We kick things off with some lighthearted stories before diving deep into the world of body armor, ballistic helmets, and evolving safety solutions for civilians, first responders, and law enforcement. We cover industry trends, product innovations, and relevant 2A news, as well as some wild stories about modern espionage, tech surveillance, and an epic Revolutionary War history lesson. Whether you’re a firearms enthusiast, law enforcement officer, or just want to stay informed on personal protection and news, this episode has something for you.

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• HSM Ammunition – Reliable ammo with a broad selection, including defensive and cowboy action rounds.

• Kings River Customs– Hand-built, reliable, and beautiful 1911 pistols from Arkansas, the 1911 capital of the world.

• The prevalence and necessity of body armor isn’t just for the military; civilians and first responders are increasingly recognizing its value.

• New product developments at Spartan Armor include ultra-lightweight ballistic helmets made in the USA, thanks to a partnership with Armor Source.

• Expiration dates on body armor are real, especially for ceramics and composites, particularly under extreme temperature conditions.

• The civilian body armor market is slowing down, with more focus shifting to government, law enforcement, and first responder contracts.

• News on 2A rights: Possible changes in USPS handgun shipping regulations and an active DOJ civil rights campaign for the Second Amendment.

• Concerns about modern surveillance technology, including insect-like drones, highlight the ongoing importance of personal privacy and freedom.

• An intriguing look at Revolutionary War history, including the Hudson River Chain, showcases American ingenuity and defense.

Todd Meeks CEO, Spartan Armor Systems Industry leader in body armor and ballistic protection Focused on solutions for civilians, law enforcement, and first responders. Learn more and see Spartan products at spartanarmorsystems.com

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