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The Edward Show

The Edward Show

Von: Edward Sturm
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Daily SEO advice, hacks, and interviews with some of the top voices in search engine optimization, as well as sit-downs with many undiscovered talents.2026 Management & Leadership Marketing & Vertrieb Täglich Ökonomie
  • Google's Goto Redirect Broke Rank Tracking. Moz Explains What Happens Now.
    Aug 28 2026

    E1151: Google has started routing search-result links through new google.com/goto redirects, masking the final destination URL for logged-out users.

    That sounds like a small technical change. For rank trackers, SERP scrapers, SEO tools, and marketers who depend on Google search data, it creates a much bigger problem.

    I'm joined by Jonathan Berthold from Moz to break down what Google changed, why rank tracking is being affected, how SEO platforms are responding, and what marketers should expect next.

    We also get into the larger fight happening behind the scenes. Google has been making it harder to collect search results at scale, from the removal of the num=100 parameter to these new Goto redirects. One possible explanation discussed in the episode is that Google is making it more difficult and expensive for AI companies and other automated systems to collect its search data.

    The problem is that SEO tools rely on some of the same underlying access.

    We cover:
    - What Google's new google.com/goto redirects actually do
    - Why the destination URL is now hidden in Google search results
    - Why this creates problems for rank tracking software
    - How Moz is handling the change
    - Why other SEO platforms have had to adjust their systems
    - Whether simply following each redirect solves the problem
    - How additional requests could increase the cost and complexity of collecting SERP data
    - Why agencies and consultants may see temporary changes in ranking reports
    - What SEOs should tell clients if their reporting starts looking different
    - How this could affect competitive analysis and other workflows that rely on SERP data
    - Why AI workflows that analyze Google results could also be affected
    - How this compares with Google's removal of the num=100 search parameter
    - Whether Google Search Console could see downstream effects
    - Why Jonathan expects SEO tools to adapt rather than rank tracking disappearing
    - The possibility that Google extends these redirects beyond logged-out searches
    - What this means for the continuing competition between Google, OpenAI, and other AI companies
    - Why AI companies have an incentive to develop their own indexes and alternative data sources
    - Why rankings are ultimately a directional metric rather than the final measure of SEO success
    - Why revenue, leads, and sales from organic search still matter more than individual ranking positions

    Jonathan's main advice for SEOs is simple: be adaptable.

    Google can change not only its ranking algorithms, but also the infrastructure that SEO tools use to collect and interpret search results. Rank trackers adapted after the num=100 change, and Jonathan expects the industry to find ways to deal with Goto redirects as well.

    The immediate question isn't whether SEO is dead. It's how much these changes affect the reliability, complexity, and cost of measuring search performance.

    And the longer-term question is bigger: as Google protects access to its search data and AI companies build their own sources of information, what does SEO measurement look like next?

    ⭐️ Jonathan Berthold on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jonathanberthold/
    ⭐️ Jonathan Berthold on 𝕏: https://x.com/j_bertho
    ⭐️ Moz (my affiliate link): https://edwardsturm.com/refer/moz/

    💎 Compact Keywords - My SEO Course - Get paying customers through SEO - Clear step-by-step video breakdowns - SEO templates to be copied and adapted for your products and services: https://compactkeywords.com/

    00:00 Goto Redirect Panic
    00:48 What Changed In SERPs
    02:47 Why Google Did It
    05:15 Costs And Workarounds
    07:37 SEO Tool Fallout
    10:10 Beyond Rank Tracking
    12:08 Fix Timeline And Pricing
    14:33 OpenAI Index And Yelp
    16:31 Search Console Volatility
    17:26 Adaptability Takeaways
    19:33 Does SEO Still Work
    21:26 Wrap Up And Thanks

    The Edward Show. Your daily search engine optimization podcast: https://edwardsturm.com/the-edward-show/

    #searchengineoptimization #seo #digitalmarketing #seoagency

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    22 Min.
  • GEO vs SEO: James Dooley Says Only 1% of SEOs Can Actually Do It
    Aug 27 2026
    E1150: James Dooley and David Quaid return to debate one of the biggest questions in SEO right now: is GEO a separate discipline, or is it just SEO under a new name? James says he used to agree that GEO was simply SEO with a different label. Then his own team changed his mind. He now runs a separate GEO/AEO department because people who can rank websites #1 in Google can still struggle to get brands cited in ChatGPT, AI Overviews, AI Mode and other LLM-driven results. David pushes back. His argument is that most of the work required for GEO still comes back to strong SEO: understanding query fan-out, creating the right pages, earning links, building authority, controlling more of the search results and getting third-party sites to corroborate what a brand says about itself. The debate eventually lands on a more interesting point: James believes only about 1% of decent SEOs can actually do GEO well because there are additional layers beyond traditional website SEO. In this episode: - Why James created a separate GEO/AEO department after initially believing GEO was just SEO - Why ranking #1 in Google does not automatically mean you will be cited by ChatGPT or appear in AI Overviews - James's argument that GEO is closer to SEO plus online reputation management - David's case that GEO tactics are still fundamentally SEO tactics applied across more surfaces - Why third-party corroboration matters for AI visibility - How Yelp, TripAdvisor, Clutch, DesignRush, G2, Capterra, Reddit and other sites can influence what AI systems see about a brand - Why reviews, awards, case studies and brand reputation matter when a buyer asks AI to choose between two companies - How query fan-out changes the keywords and pages SEOs need to think about - Why James says GEO involves different competitors, tracking, KPIs and reporting - How parasite SEO, supplementary websites and exact-match domains can be used to control more of the information around a brand - The difference between tactics designed to move Google rankings and tactics designed specifically to increase AI citations - The role of press releases, social distribution and third-party mentions in getting faster AI visibility - James's fastest approach to AI visibility and what he considers more sustainable long-term work - Why building a defined entity, reviews, awards, knowledge panels and consistent third-party references matters over time - Why some GEO agencies may simply be weak SEO agencies using a new label - How businesses should evaluate a GEO agency before spending serious money - Why enterprise companies are moving larger parts of SEO, branding and traditional marketing budgets into GEO - Whether SEOs should start selling GEO even if they believe the underlying work is still SEO James and David disagree on where SEO ends and GEO begins, but they agree on one important point: a GEO provider who cannot understand and execute SEO is unlikely to be very good at GEO. If you work in SEO, run an agency, manage a brand, or are trying to understand how ChatGPT and AI search are changing search visibility, this episode lays out both sides of the argument with specific examples and tactics. ⭐️ James Dooley's website - https://jamesdooley.com/ ⭐️ James Dooley on 𝕏 - https://x.com/james_dooley ⭐️ James Dooley on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/jameszdooley/ ⭐️ James Dooley on Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/jameszdooley/ ⭐️ James Dooley on Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/james.dooley1/ ⭐️ James Dooley on YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/@JamesDooley ⭐️ David "The King" Quaid on 𝕏 - https://x.com/DavidGQuaid ⭐️ David "The King" Quaid on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/davidquaid/ ⭐️ David "The King" Quaid on YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/@DavidQuaid ⭐️ David "The King" Quaid's agency - https://primaryposition.com/ 💎 Compact Keywords - My SEO Course - Get paying customers through SEO - Clear step-by-step video breakdowns - SEO templates to be copied and adapted for your products and services: https://compactkeywords.com/ 00:00 GEO vs SEO Debate Setup 00:45 Why AI Visibility Differs 02:25 GEO as SEO Plus ORM 05:17 Market Confusion and SEO Is Dead Claims 07:15 Budgets Branding and Off Page Proof 11:55 Can You Do GEO Without SEO 13:27 Yelp Reviews and Local Listings 22:05 Tools KPIs and Claim Frame Prove 26:15 SERP APIs and Query Fan Out Shifts 28:20 Creativity Outranking Listicles 32:54 Black Hat SEO vs LLM Poisoning 39:04 GEO Hype Emotional Marketing 43:17 Big Budgets and Boardroom Criteria 47:37 AEO Off Page Signals 49:12 Vetting GEO Agencies 51:18 Independent Advisor Panels 53:19 Budgets Shift To GEO 55:28 Fast AI Visibility Plays 59:36 Pop Under Traffic Boosts 01:00:50 Sustainable Entity Building 01:01:50 Query Fanout Hacks 01:07:14 Experimentation Mindset 01:10:36 King Of SEO Case Study 01:14:18 Temporal Semantics Explained 01:21:46 Common Crawl Training Test 01:30:58 ...
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    1 Std. und 35 Min.
  • How to Get a Google Knowledge Panel in 3 Months (Jason Barnard)
    Aug 26 2026
    E1149: Jason Barnard breaks down how to get a Google Knowledge Panel for yourself or your business in as little as three months. We cover why clarity and consistency are the foundation of entity SEO and how Google decides whether it understands who you are. Jason explains what an "Entity Home" is, why your About page matters, and how to structure it for both humans and search engines. We go through the platforms new brands should consider, including LinkedIn, Crunchbase, The Org, social profiles, and review sites. Jason also explains why linking between your website and these profiles creates an "infinite loop of self-corroboration" that can strengthen Google's confidence in your entity. We discuss SameAs schema, common schema mistakes, website architecture, pillar pages, navigation, and why your homepage should usually focus on your brand rather than targeting a keyword. Jason shares how to write entity descriptions that are easier for Google and AI systems to understand, including the importance of semantic triples, related entities, and removing ambiguity. We also get into why third-party mentions, podcasts, press coverage, and other external sources can make a Knowledge Panel more stable and authoritative. Jason explains why Knowledge Panels matter beyond Google Search as people increasingly use ChatGPT, Gemini, and other AI systems to research brands and individuals. Finally, he walks through the Kalicube tools and practical steps you can use to build, track, and strengthen your presence in Google's Knowledge Graph. Jason Barnard coined Brand SERP in 2012, the search results for your own name, your online business card. He coined Entity Home in 2015, the single page where a person or company officially lives online and where Google goes to resolve who you actually are. He coined Answer Engine Optimization in 2017, before the answer engines had arrived. Entity SEO didn't catch up to him; he was there first, and the terminology proves it. Jason's universal three-step process for earning a Knowledge Panel on your Brand SERP: 1. Be clear on the Entity Home. 2. Keep the facts consistent across every profile you control. 3. Link out to the corroboration that proves them. Do those three in that order, and the Knowledge Panel is the machine agreeing with you. ⭐️ Jason's Entity Home - https://jasonbarnard.com Kalicube Pro tools from the episode: ⭐️ Knowledge Graph Explorer - https://kalicube.pro/tools/knowledge-graph-explorer ⭐️ Copywriting Sandbox - https://kalicube.pro/tools/google-copywriting-analyzer ⭐️ Trusted Sources Tool - https://kalicube.pro/tools/trusted-sources ⭐️ Person Schema Generator - https://kalicube.pro/tools/schema-markup-generator-person ⭐️ Organization Schema Generator - https://kalicube.pro/tools/schema-markup-generator-organization ⭐️ Free Tools Hub - https://kalicube.pro/tools/free-resources 💎 Compact Keywords - My SEO Course - Get paying customers through SEO - Clear step-by-step video breakdowns - SEO templates to be copied and adapted for your products and services: https://compactkeywords.com/ 00:00 Knowledge Panel Basics 00:15 Entity Home Clarity 02:08 What Is An Entity 04:32 Search Volume Myths 06:15 Common Setup Mistakes 08:20 Corroboration Links 09:48 Platforms To Register 11:22 Future Of Knowledge Panels 14:15 About Home Media Kit 16:18 Pillar Pages Navigation 19:04 Site Architecture Rules 22:04 SameAs Schema Tips 23:28 Transparency And Trust 25:37 Brand Naming Strategy 28:59 Disambiguation Challenges 30:43 CTR Not A Factor 31:05 Notability Relevancy Confidence 32:27 Modular Platform Descriptions 35:19 Do the Reasoning for AI 37:22 Write a Clear Executive Summary 40:03 Avoid Ambiguity and Capitalization 43:52 Third Party Proof Matters 48:25 Why Knowledge Panels Win 53:11 When Panels Don't Show 56:57 Kalicube Steps and Wrap The Edward Show. Your daily search engine optimization podcast: https://edwardsturm.com/the-edward-show/ #searchengineoptimization #entityseo #seo #searchmarketing
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