1:00 See Red Fred and the Podfather Doug Thonus diving into growing concerns around the Bulls’ long-term building blocks.

11:00 The duo breaks down what Josh Giddey and Matas Buzelis realistically project to become.

22:00 Jaden Ivey Concerns

28:00 Rob Dillingham Concerns

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Big Red Bus — Episode Segments & Timestamps

0:00 — Would You Give Up Your Pinky Toe for a Title?
The ultimate fan sacrifice debate and what a championship would really mean for Bulls fans.

5:00 — Which New Guard Do You Keep?
Breaking down the new backcourt options and who actually fits the future.

10:00 — Were the Coby & Ayo Deals Really That Good?
Re-examining the contracts, value, and how they compare to league trends.

20:00 — Zach & Lauri vs. Giddey & Matas
Present vs. future core debate and which path gives Chicago a higher ceiling.

29:00 — Let’s Be Happy
A reset on the franchise outlook and reasons for optimism.

34:00 — Jalen Duren Discussion
Fit, impact, and what a move like this would signal about the Bulls’ direction.

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The legendary MarkK from Australia jumps on the Big Red Bus to talk about the Bulls recent team teardown at the All Star Break. See Red Fred also asks him his thoughts on the growing issues with tanking.

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Part 2 of Episode 238. See Red Fred and the Podfather Doug Thonus continue the discussion and unpack the frustration building within the Bulls fanbase.

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In Part 1 of this episode, See Red Fred and the Podfather Doug Thonus react to the negative response surrounding the Coby and Ayo trades. They unpack the frustration building within the Bulls fanbase and even among loyal listeners on the Big Red Bus, exploring why the moves landed the way they did emotionally. Fred caps the segment with his car analogy to frame how fans are processing change, expectations, and direction.

Part 2 will be up this weekend.

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See Red Fred opens with updated thoughts on Coby White following news that broke after his initial recording with Podfather Doug Thonus. Then, tune in for a special emergency segment with Fred and Doug reacting to the Jaden Ivey trade and saying adios to Vooch as the Bulls signal a new direction.

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The Big Red Bus – Episode 236 | Episode Notes

5:00 – Will Coby White Be Traded?
See Red Fred and Doug make a bet on whether or not he will be traded.

10:00 – Building Around Matas Buzelis and Josh Giddey
Is it a good idea?

15:55 – Nikola Vučević Trade Rumors
The Bulls Offer Vooch to Boston, and they say No.

19:30 – Possible Centers for Next Season
Surveying short-term and long-term options if the Bulls move on from Vooch.

26:00 – Bulls Trading for Giannis Antetokounmpo
Could the Chicago Bulls actually pull it off—and should they?

34:00 – Trading for Clint Capela
Is Capela a realistic, stabilizing option at center, and what would it cost?

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On this episode of The Big Red Bus, See Red Fred and Doug dig into three timely Bulls topics that sit right at the heart of the team’s present and future.

Segment 1: Coby White Trade Rumors (5:00)
We open the show by unpacking the latest buzz around potential trade scenarios involving Coby White. What’s real, what’s noise, and what would moving Coby say about where the Bulls think they are right now? We look at value, fit, timing, and whether these rumors reflect opportunistic listening or a more fundamental shift in direction.

Segment 2: Matas Buzelis Development Check-In (24:27)
The middle segment focuses on Matas Buzelis and his early development. While the upside and flashes are obvious, we zero in on his defensive struggles—positioning, awareness, and physicality—and talk through what’s normal for a young player adjusting to NBA speed versus what needs to improve quickly for him to earn consistent trust and minutes.

Segment 3: Vooch and the Warriors
We close by discussing the rumors around Vooch and the Warriors. Is this about asset management, clearing developmental runway, or trying to recalibrate the roster without fully blowing it up? We debate the Bulls’ options—and the risks tied to each path.

A classic Big Red Bus episode: rumors, development, and plenty of Bulls reality checks along the way. 🟥🚌

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