Over 36 years ago, Kris sat in the classroom of her Bible college professor, Paul Marc Goulet, learning lessons that would profoundly shape her understanding of God, cognitive function, and the power of the stories we tell ourselves. Decades later, their paths cross again for a deeply meaningful conversation about how our God concepts—what we believe about who God is—shape every part of our faith, healing, and daily life.

A pastor, author, counselor, and global leader, Paul draws from his extensive background in psychology and theology to unpack the ways distorted beliefs about God can keep us trapped in emotional pain and confusion. He introduces us to one of his most impactful teachings, “the Vat,” a concept describing how our thoughts and experiences create a mental and spiritual environment that either nurtures truth or reinforces distortion.

Together, Kris and Paul explore how to reconcile our view of God with life’s hardest moments—especially for those walking through betrayal and trauma. This episode invites listeners to reframe suffering, rediscover who God really is, and find freedom in knowing His love is consistent, kind, and unwavering.

Key Takeaways from the Episode:

• Our God concept—what we subconsciously believe about God—shapes how we interpret everything in life.
• Distorted God concepts often stem from early experiences of authority, love, or rejection.
• Healing involves replacing lies about God with biblical truth and relational experiences of His character.
• “The Vat” illustrates how unprocessed pain can distort our perception of God, self, and others—and how renewal begins by changing what we allow into that space.
• Reframing the question “Why do bad things happen to good people?” opens the door to deeper faith and trust.
• Understanding God through Scripture (1 Corinthians 13:4–8) helps us see His true nature as love itself.
• True breakthrough happens when we allow God to rewrite the stories we’ve been telling ourselves.

Connect with Paul Marc Goulet: 🌐 www.paulmarcgoulet.com 📖 Books: Breakthrough, Crack the Code (coming soon) 🌍 Follow his global initiatives and leadership training in Madagascar and beyond.

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Gigi Hopkins, Professional Certified Coach (PCC) and Director of Wives Care at Be Broken Ministries, joins us for a candid conversation about how healing from betrayal can produce unexpected gifts. With over 24 years of ministry experience and a passion for walking alongside women in the midst of betrayal trauma, Gigi offers both professional insight and deep personal compassion. She shares her “Gifts of Betrayal” list, encouraging us to see how God can transform pain into growth, maturity, and stronger relationships.

From growing in faith to developing healthier boundaries, Gigi helps us recognize the ways God uses even the most devastating experiences to shape us into who we were created to be. Whether your marriage has ended or become stronger through healing, this conversation will remind you that hope and wholeness are possible.

Key Takeaways from the Episode:

• Healing from betrayal can strengthen faith and transform character.
• Betrayal can teach us to be better stewards of what God entrusts to us.
• True friendship often grows deeper through shared vulnerability.
• Self-awareness is a critical part of the healing process.
• Healthy boundaries lead to healthier relationships.
• Healing shifts our perspective toward eternity and lasting hope.
• Some marriages end, while others become stronger than before—both can lead to growth.

Connect with Gigi Hopkins:

• Wives Care at Be Broken Ministries: www.bebroken.org/wivescare
• Lifter of My Head Coaching: www.lifterofmyhead.org

Connect with Us:

• www.watermarkcoach.com
• @watermarkcoaching

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In this special episode, we’re joined by Dr. Jake Porter, renowned relational trauma expert, coach, and founder of Daring Ventures. Known for his groundbreaking work helping individuals and couples heal from betrayal and rebuild trust, Jake brings deep insight and compassion to the recovery journey.

Together, we explore the transformative power of integrity-centered healing and learning to be comfortable being uncomfortable. Jake shares his personal experience participating in a program called Men and Women of Discomfort, and how its lessons have shaped his understanding of growth, resilience, and the human capacity to endure and overcome.

It was truly an honor to have Jake on the show. His heart for helping others heal, combined with the impactful work of Daring Ventures, continues to bring hope and clarity to those navigating some of life’s most painful chapters.

Key Takeaways:

• Get to know Dr. Jake Porter and the story behind Daring Ventures
• Why integrity is central to long-term recovery
• What Jake learned from the Men and Women of Discomfort program
• How embracing discomfort can lead to emotional, spiritual, and relational growth
• Encouragement for those walking through betrayal and rebuilding trust

Connect with Dr. Jake Porter & Daring Ventures:

🌐 www.daringventures.com

📸 Instagram: @daringventures

Connect with Watermark Coaching:

🌐 www.watermarkcoach.com

📸 Instagram: @watermarkcoaching

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