John pits AI servers against one another and learns about a war that lasted about as long as this episode. Meanwhile, Jonnie gets a mysterious note from a stranger and tells us the strange (and misremembered) history of the "Rosie the Riveter" poster.

Plus, a conversation about tradition and the tension we hold between honoring the past and charting a new direction.

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John tells us his elaborate sleeping regimen, and tries to bring back the offeratory in church services. Meanwhile, Jonnie gets a case of the "church giggles", and shares the complicated history of The Wizard of Oz.

Plus, a conversation about confirmation bias, and why truthfulness still matters.

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John doesn't have time to kayak and doesn't sell his soul (because he got no offers). Meanwhile, Jonnie performs feats of strength at a show, and tells the history of the plastic car made of soybeans.

Plus, a conversation about the pursuit of happiness and why it makes so many of us miserable.

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