Location: Dungeouness River, Sequim, WA

Record date: 4/25/2026

Release date: 9/1/2026

Hosts: Amber Martin and Natasha Morisawa

Edited: https://www.studiosymbiotic.com/

Episode Description:

The Serviceberry: Abundance and Reciprocity in the Natural World by Robin Wall Kimmerer grounds the discussion about alternative economies and specifically a Service Economy as introduced in this book. It follows up on previous episodes of living more simply and our relationship to stuff. Through Robin Wall Kimmerer’s voice and quotes from her book, they engage in wisdom and story she shares as seeds for innovation and hope.

They explore:

• scarcity mindset, the connection to capitalist economy, and reactions to disasters both benevolent and fear responses.
• Culture of service.
• the importance of relationships in survival and abundance.
• To consume with humility, restraint, reciprocity, and reverence.
• The role of a culture of gratitude.
• The role of joy.

They introduce a movement started by Robin Wall Kimmerer called Plant Baby Plant as a force to Raise a Garden, Raise a Rukus and encourage listeners to check it out and share it.

“If the Sun is the source of flow in the economy of nature, what is the “Sun” of a human gift economy, the source that consonantly replenishes the flow of gifts? Maybe it is love.”

― Robin Wall Kimmerer, The Serviceberry: Abundance and Reciprocity in the Natural World

Keywords:

Alternative Economy

Service Economy

Reciprocity

Gratitude

Joy

Restraint

Humility

Ecology

Gardening

Enoughness

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