From competitive dancer to higher education strategist, Dr. Chantelle George shares how discipline, ambition, and identity shaped her leadership journey.

Raised in Lafayette, Louisiana, Chantelle grew up in a family grounded in education and service. Today, she is the CEO and founder of CG Consulting, a national firm working across K-12, higher education, nonprofits, and workforce systems to expand access and economic mobility for underserved students.

In this conversation, she reflects on navigating the VA system as a caregiver, redefining success beyond credentials, and why institutions must shift from asking if students are college-ready to becoming truly student-ready themselves.

This episode explores student success, systemic change in education, leadership under pressure, and the power of reputation. As Chantelle reminds us, it’s not just who you know: it’s who knows you.

Chapters:

02:03 📚 Publish Your Book at https://leveragepublishinggroup.com.

03:45 🌿 Louisiana roots, French immersion, and growing up in an education-first home.

09:42 🎖️ Supporting a veteran parent and navigating the VA system.

13:02 💃 Fourteen years of dance, discipline, competition, and identity beyond achievement.

23:49 ✍️ Find Support for Writing Your Impact-Driven Book at https://booksthatmatter.org.

30:18 🎓 NYU hustle, higher education, work-study, and staying connected for life.

32:22 🏫 Building real pathways from high school to career.

37:45 🔗 When K-12, higher education, nonprofits, and employers actually align.

42:54 📘 What student-ready really means in higher education: the reality of anti-DEI pushback.

47:23 🌟 Leaders and changemakers can find support at https://geniusdiscovery.org.

54:30 🧭 Not just who you know: reputation, access, and long-term mobility.

01:02:18 🎧 Discover Podcasts Like This One At https://podcastsmatter.com

Links:

Website: https://chantellegeorge.com
Social Media: www.instagram.com/chantellegeorgeconsulting
LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/chantellegeorge

Connect with Dr. Chantelle George to explore CG Consulting’s work, follow her insights on higher education and workforce development, and learn how to create meaningful impact for students and communities.

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From corporate finance to education equity, Nick Freeman didn’t take the expected path.

At 26, with an MBA and master’s in finance in hand, he walked away from the corporate world and stepped into Chicago Public Schools. What he saw there (school closures, resource disparities, and the weight of systemic inequity) reshaped his career and his calling.

Today, Nick is the Co-founder and Chief Growth Officer of Innovare, where he works at the intersection of education leadership, edtech, and AI-powered tools. His team helps schools turn real-time data into action reducing administrative burden, streamlining school improvement planning, and giving educators time back to focus on what matters most: relationships.

But this conversation goes beyond technology.

Raised on Chicago’s South Side in Hyde Park, Nick grew up watching his parents run a neighborhood baseball league for twenty-five years out of their basement. They didn’t build it for profit. They built it for community. That example shaped how he thinks about leadership, trust, and responsibility.

In this episode, Nick speaks candidly about being a Black founder in venture capital spaces where less than one percent of funding goes to leaders who look like him. He reflects on mental health, the pressure of representation, and the power of removing the mask: rejecting code-switching and leading in your authentic voice.

This is a conversation about education reform, authentic leadership, community-driven innovation, and what it takes to stand firm in your values while building something that lasts.

If you care about equity in schools, AI in education, or leading without shrinking who you are, this one’s for you.

Chapters:
00:40 👋🏾 From Finance to a Quarter-Life Pivot: Nick’s Journey into Education

01:57 📚 Publish your book at leveragepublishinggroup.com

03:44 🏡 Baseball, Basement Offices, and Growing Up in Hyde Park

07:21 🏫 What School Closures and Inequity Look Like Up Close

18:50 ✍🏾 Write your impact-driven book at booksthatmatter.org

24:27 🤝 Co-Founding Innovare: Building with Community at the Center

26:29 💰 Venture Capital, Representation, and Not All Money Is Good Money

28:11 🧭 Removing the Mask: Authentic Leadership and Code-Switching

34:31 🤖 AI in Education: Saving Educators Time to Focus on Relationships

39:26 🌱 Support for Leaders and Changemakers at geniusdiscovery.org

41:52 🔭 Legacy, Family, and Building Something That Lasts

50:02 🎧 Launch your podcast at https://podcastsmatter.com

Links:
Website: https://innovaresip.com
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/innovaresip

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nickfree
Email address: growth@innovaresip.com

Connect with Nick Freeman on LinkedIn and explore Innovare’s work to see how data, technology, and authentic leadership can help drive equity in education.

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Check Out Ron's Book: www.amazon.com/dp/1613431473

Leverage Publishing Group: www.leveragepublishinggroup.com
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Start a Podcast That Matters: http://podcastsmatter.com
Go from Expert to Thought Leader: http://geniusdiscovery.org

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From a student activist placed on a no-fly list to White House policy leader to an equity-driven consultant in Canada, Chris Harley shares how a lifetime of intersectional leadership shaped her mission to help organizations lead with courage, clarity, and care.

Chris is a nonprofit leader, fractional executive, and strategic advisor with more than fifteen years of experience guiding mission-driven organizations through growth and transition. A mixed-race Asian American and Indigenous woman of color with Korean and Piscataway heritage, she brings an equity-centered lens to everything she does. From her formative years at Oberlin College to earning her MPP at the University of Chicago, Chris’s leadership has always been grounded in justice, proximity, and lived experience. Her path has taken her from grassroots activism to the White House and now to her own consulting practice serving U.S. and Canadian organizations.

She shares the pivotal moments that shaped her leadership: organizing one of Ohio’s largest interfaith protests after 9/11, advocating for Asian Pacific American Studies as a student, and later leading health equity work at the White House Initiative on Asian Americans and Pacific Islanders under President Obama. Chris recounts addressing toxic exposures for immigrant women in nail salons and ensuring millions could access the Affordable Care Act through culturally responsive outreach. Her journey continued as President & CEO of a national sex education nonprofit, where she led through the pandemic and racial reckoning while building a values-driven culture that doubled the organization’s budget and impact.

Chris offers powerful insights for leaders navigating uncertainty: grounding yourself in your identity, prioritizing psychological safety, and focusing on what truly matters during change. She speaks candidly about the decision to relocate her family to Canada for safety and stability, and how getting comfortable with the unknown has been central to her leadership. Her story is a reminder that lived experience is not a limitation but a leadership asset.

This conversation is a masterclass in values-aligned leadership, resilience, and building organizations that reflect the justice we hope to see in the world. Tune in to hear how Chris’s journey can inspire you to lead with greater authenticity and impact.

Chapters:
00:42 👩🏽‍💼 Meet Chris Harley and her courageous leadership journey

01:48 📚 Publish your book at https://leveragepublishinggroup.com

03:01 ✊🏽 Identity, activism, and finding her voice as a leader

17:59 🏛️ Navigating policy work through a social justice lens

22:55 🧭 Find support for writing your impact-driven book at booksthatmatter.org

28:45 🧩 Understanding the foundations of racial justice

31:55 💬 Leading through the challenges of sex education work

35:43 🌈 Practicing intersectionality as a leadership strength

43:04 🧠 If you are a leader or a changemaker looking for support, check out geniusdiscovery.org

44:33 🍁 Relocating to Canada for safety, values, and a new beginning

58:51 🎙️ Want a podcast just like this one? Check out podcastsmatter.org

Links:
Website: www.csyharleyconsulting.com/home

LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/christine-soyong-harley

Connect with Chris Harley to explore her consulting work and learn how she helps organizations navigate growth, equity, and leadership with intention.

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Check Out Ron's Book: www.amazon.com/dp/1613431473

Leverage Publishing Group: www.leveragepublishinggroup.com
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Go from Expert to Thought Leader: http://geniusdiscovery.org

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From broadcaster to ADHD advocate: Dave Delaney shares his journey of turning lifelong curiosity, comedy, and communication expertise into a mission to help others understand and manage ADHD. With over two decades of podcasting experience, Dave has explored everything from parenting with his wife on Two Boobs and a Baby to solo musings on Walking with Dave, and now educates audiences through his podcast ADHD Wise Squirrels. His storytelling blends humor, empathy, and insight, making complex topics approachable while celebrating authentic human connection.

Dave’s path was shaped by discovery and adaptability. Majoring in radio and television broadcasting, his hyperactive, class-clown personality led him to study improv at Second City in Toronto, honing skills that would inform his podcasting, public speaking, and networking work. Recently diagnosed with ADHD at fifty, Dave reframed decades of personal and professional experience, realizing that his innate curiosity and energy could empower others. Along the way, he navigated the evolving landscape of social media, podcasting, and live performance, learning to balance technology’s benefits with its potential to dilute human connection.

Based on his knowledge and experiences, Dave shares practical strategies drawn from improv, communication theory, and ADHD research. He emphasizes the “yes and” mindset for authentic leadership and networking, the importance of mastering material to allow genuine improvisation, and how long-term, empathetic engagement outweighs transactional connections online. He also addresses ADHD management, offering resources like free screenings on wisesquirrels.com and insights into coaching oneself to stay focused and productive.

Listeners will gain a nuanced perspective on leadership, creativity, and resilience. Dave highlights how embracing neurodiversity can enhance collaboration and innovation, and why in-person relationships remain irreplaceable even in a digital-first world. His reflections on humor, storytelling, and human connection invite audiences to see both personal challenges and professional opportunities in a new light.

Tune in for a conversation filled with laughter, insight, and actionable advice, and discover how Dave Delaney transforms curiosity and creativity into tools for connection and understanding.

Chapters

00:49 🎙️ Meet Dave Delaney the Podcasting Pioneer

01:45 📚 Publish your book at https://leveragepublishinggroup.com

02:39 🎧 Explore Dave Delaney’s Podcasting Adventures

06:44 🎭 Discover the Power of Improv and Networking

19:45 💡 Find support for writing your impact-driven book at booksthatmatter.org

29:05 📝 Dave’s Struggles with ADHD and Writing

30:15 🌐 Tracing the Evolution of Social Media

32:21 ⚠️ Understanding the Dark Side of Social Media

42:34 🤖 AI and the Future of Networking

00:46:17 🌟 Leaders and Changemakers Can Get Support at geniusdiscovery.org

47:01 🧠 Understanding ADHD through Personal Insights

01:03:06 🎙️ Want a Podcast Like This One? Check out podcastsmatter.org

Links

Website: https://davedelaneyspeaks.com
Social Media: https://davedelaney.me/linkage
Connect with Dave Delaney to explore his ADHD resources, follow his podcast ADHD Wise Squirrels, and learn how improv, storytelling, and authentic networking can transform your communication and leadership skills.

Connect with Ron: www.linkedin.com/in/rapatalo
Check Out Ron's Book: www.amazon.com/dp/1613431473

Leverage Publishing Group: www.leveragepublishinggroup.com
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Start a Podcast That Matters: http://podcastsmatter.com
Go from Expert to Thought Leader: http://geniusdiscovery.org

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From classroom teacher to leadership architect, Nautrie Jones shares her journey of transforming educational systems and workplaces by helping people recognize their value, develop their potential, and create meaningful impact.

Nautrie Jones, co-founder of Empact Work, has spent over two decades shaping people-centered leadership across education and organizational consulting. Beginning her career in Atlanta Public Schools, Nautrie quickly distinguished herself as a thoughtful educator and mentor, known for her empathetic approach with middle school students and her ability to create structured, engaging classrooms. Her dedication extended beyond academics, providing students with basic needs and fostering a sense of belonging, which became a cornerstone of her professional philosophy.

Her path wasn’t without challenges. After over a decade of teaching, Nautrie recognized her contributions were undervalued when a modest raise was denied, prompting her to reassess her career trajectory. Mentorship, reflective practice, and a pivotal recommendation from a former colleague eventually led her to Teach For America, where she honed her skills in teacher coaching, leadership development, and team strategy. Each transition, from educator to instructional coach to organizational consultant, was marked by courage, curiosity, and a commitment to seeing potential in others.

Through Empact Work, Nautrie and co-founder Travonnie Mackey address systemic gaps in talent development and workplace alignment. They equip managers with the tools to support teams effectively, clarify value propositions so employees understand their path to success, and ensure strategic plans translate into measurable performance. Nautrie emphasizes that leadership is as much about understanding people’s motivations as it is about strategy, and she encourages reflection, curiosity, and deliberate practice as keys to lasting impact.

Nautrie discusses recognizing opportunity, cultivating empathy, and translating experience into scalable frameworks for growth. Listeners will walk away inspired to embrace persistent callings, build compassionate communities, and lead with clarity. Tune in to hear Nautrie’s insights and discover how cultivating human-centered leadership can transform both organizations and lives.

Chapters

00:38 👋 Meet Nautrie Jones, From Classroom to Co-Founder

01:29 📚 Publish your book at https://leveragepublishinggroup.com

02:20 🏫 Nautrie’s Early Career and Teaching Philosophy

23:35 ✍️ Find support for writing your impact-driven book at booksthatmatter.org

24:24 💼 Transitioning to Talent Strategy and Empathy in Leadership

30:59 💖 Spiritual Currency and Abundance

31:59 🎓 Navigating Challenges in Education

35:38 🚀 Transition to Teach For America

47:20 🌟 If you are a leader or changemaker looking for support, check out geniusdiscovery.org

48:07 🤝 Founding Empact Work

54:26 🔮 Final Reflections and Future Plans

01:00:06 🎧 Want a podcast just like this one? Check out podcastsmatter.com

Links

Website: www.empact.work
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nautrie-jones
Connect with Nautrie Jones to explore her approach to leadership, discover Empact Work’s professional development offerings, and learn how to create workplaces where people feel valued, empowered, and clear about their contribution.

Connect with Ron: www.linkedin.com/in/rapatalo
Check Out Ron's Book: www.amazon.com/dp/1613431473

Leverage Publishing Group: www.leveragepublishinggroup.com
Publish a Book That Matters: http://booksthatmatter.org
Start a Podcast That Matters: http://podcastsmatter.com
Go from Expert to Thought Leader: http://geniusdiscovery.org

For more great podcasts like this one, visit: https://podcaststhatmatter.org

From first-generation Pakistani American immigrant to national leader in educational equity, Dr. Sana Shaikh shares her journey of using identity and lived experience to transform communities and advance opportunity for all.

Sana Shaikh is a nationally recognized expert in education, policy, and economic development, currently serving as a Business Development Specialist at the Community Foundation for Greater New Haven. With over 14 years of experience spanning K–12 education, nonprofit leadership, and public policy, she has dedicated her career to building systems that center equity, inclusion, and authentic human connection. Her journey began as a Teach For America corps member teaching high school in Baltimore, where the realities of systemic barriers reshaped her understanding of opportunity and inspired her to pursue a PhD at Brandeis University.

Sana’s path has been marked by pivotal turning points, from teaching in under-resourced schools to leading cross-sector initiatives in economic development. She reflects candidly on the challenges of navigating higher education, professional spaces, and personal life as a mother and immigrant. These experiences highlighted that meaningful change is not just about credentials but about authentic relationships, curiosity, and connecting deeply with others to understand their real needs.

Throughout the conversation, Sana shares practical insights on fostering trust, cultivating empathy, and leveraging personal and professional privileges to create systemic impact. Her frameworks emphasize authentic engagement, cross-cultural understanding, and the power of intentional collaboration. She also explores how exposure to diverse communities and perspectives strengthens leadership, broadens empathy, and equips individuals to address inequities thoughtfully.

Listeners will leave inspired by Sana’s message that impactful work requires both courage and vulnerability, and that each person can use their unique identity and experiences to make a difference. Tune in to hear her stories, lessons, and actionable advice on turning lived experience into leadership and lasting community impact.

Chapters

👋 00:38 Meet Dr. Sana Shaikh and Her Journey of Sacred Synthesis

🔗 01:32 Publish your book at https://leveragepublishinggroup.com/

🌍 02:27 Dr. Sana Shaikh’s Immigrant Experience and Career Path

🤝 06:14 Building Authentic Connections and Impactful Policy

🎓 24:08 Balancing Life While Pursuing a PhD

💪 26:24 The Emotional and Physical Labor of Academia

🗣️ 27:01 Navigating Relationships and Negotiations During Doctoral Work

📖 28:43 Find support for writing your impact-driven book at booksthatmatter.org

💼 30:30 The Art of Building Connections

🚀 36:17 Empowering Entrepreneurs and Strengthening Communities

🌟 38:41 If you are a leader or changemaker looking for support, check out geniusdiscovery.org

🎧 44:24 Want a podcast just like this one? Check out podcastsmatter.com

Links
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sananaeemshaikh/
Check out Dr. Sana Shaikh’s LinkedIn to explore her work in educational equity, economic development, and cross-sector collaboration, and discover how she turns lived experience into meaningful impact.

Connect with Ron: www.linkedin.com/in/rapatalo
Check Out Ron's Book: www.amazon.com/dp/1613431473

Leverage Publishing Group: www.leveragepublishinggroup.com
Publish a Book That Matters: http://booksthatmatter.org
Start a Podcast That Matters: http://podcastsmatter.com
Go from Expert to Thought Leader: http://geniusdiscovery.org

For more great podcasts like this one, visit: https://podcaststhatmatter.org/