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  • From the boardroom to the prep line: How Stonefire Grill's CEO is fueling legacy growth
    Aug 25 2026

    When David Youngberg stepped into the CEO role at Stonefire Grill in 2023, his first 90 days weren't spent analyzing spreadsheets in a boardroom — they were spent baking the brand's signature carrot cake and prepping food alongside front-line workers.

    In an industry increasingly pivoting toward automation and individualized grab-and-go efficiency, the leader of the 12-unit Southern California fast-casual concept is proving that a relentless focus on human connection and from-scratch operations still drives sustainable growth.

    In the latest episode of the Restaurant Operator Podcast, Youngberg unpacks how evolving his leadership style for a new generation of workers, leveraging real-time guest feedback technology and balancing a massive catering-and-dine-in trifecta are fueling the legacy brand's future. Mandy Wolf Detwiler, editor of Pizza Marketplace and QSRweb, hosts the podcast.

    Click the link to listen to learn more about Youngberg's leadership style, how the brand maintains hospitality and emotional connections in an increasingly tech-driven industry and putting people first.

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    25 Min.
  • Why Dillas Quesadillas simplified its menu to prepare for growth
    Sep 23 2026
    Sometimes growing a restaurant brand means adding more, but for Dillas Quesadillas, the path forward meant taking things away.The Texas-based concept recently overhauled its menu, cutting the number of signature quesadillas from 10 to six and simplifying its meal structure. The changes weren't driven by a lack of ideas but by something much more fundamental: learning from how the customers ordered.Co-founders Kyle and Maggie Gordon discussed the strategy during a recent Restaurant Operator Podcast with Mandy Detwiler.When Dillas opened 13 years ago, the founders envisioned a menu built around 10 signature quesadillas. Over time, however, the company began eliminating lower-performing items that required additional ingredients. That move was made after watching how customers actually ordered. One behavior stood out: About 75% of customers were turning their quesadilla orders into meals by adding sides and drinks.So Dillas made the decision to simplify its menu based on customer preferences.Today, the streamlined menu features six signature quesadillas, with meals including fries and a drink. Fries already were the brand's most popular side.Simplifying the drive-thruThe changes were particularly important when the Gordons considered how customers interacted with Dillas. More than half of its business comes through the drive-thru, and 85% of its food leaves the restaurant in a bag rather than being consumed in the dining room. That means convenience, speed and accuracy are critical.New customers also sometimes found 10 signature quesadillas overwhelming, requiring employees to spend more time explaining the menu.Since deploying the simplified menu last year, Kyle Gordon said Dillas has reduced drive-thru times by approximately 30 seconds. The benefits have extended to employees as well.Knowing that every meal comes with fries and a drink means restaurant teams can continuously cook fries instead of waiting to see which sides customers select. That simplification also has helped address another issue the Gordons heard through customer feedback: order accuracy."You need to simplify the menu to help us be more accurate," Kyle Gordon said of feedback from the team.Don't alienate the diehardsSimplification came with a potential risk: What happens to customers whose favorite quesadilla gets cut?Dillas found a compromise. While four lower-selling quesadillas disappeared from the main menu, customers can still recreate them through customization and a "secret menu."One example is the Bluebonnet, a vegetarian quesadilla featuring grilled zucchini, portobello mushrooms, spinach, peppers, and onions. It wasn't a strong enough seller to retain a spot on the main board, but its fans can still order it."No customers during the transition period ever came to Dillas and ordered their old quesadilla and got told no," Kyle Gordon said.That strategy allowed the Dillas to present a simpler experience to first-time customers while preserving more variety for loyal guests who know the brand. That's particularly important for a concept with ambitious growth plans. Dillas currently has 11 locations, but the founders envision growing to 1,100. And as the company introduces itself to more customers, the Gordons don't want complexity to get in the way."We're still in the process of building a really big pool of diehards," Kyle Gordon said.Giving the quesadilla 'main character energy'The Gordons' growth strategy rests on their belief that quesadillas deserve a much bigger place in the restaurant industry. They see portability as one of its biggest advantages, particularly as consumers increasingly eat on the go. The format also is familiar enough that it doesn't require much explanation, while providing a platform for customization and experimentation."We're always talking about the quesadilla having main character energy," Kyle Gordon said.The Gordons believe the format can accommodate changing consumer preferences because almost anything can be placed inside a tortilla. Customers can make a quesadilla simple, indulgent or customized to their preferences.Despite some of Dillas' more elaborate offerings, however, its best-selling quesadilla remains one of its simplest: the Plano, featuring chicken and cheese."Customers, for better or worse, they just want it simple the majority of the time," Maggie Gordon said.Be brilliant at the basicsThat lesson extends beyond the menu. As Dillas grows, the founders said they're resisting the temptation to chase every food trend or constantly introduce new products. Instead, they want to focus on consistency."If we can't deliver on the basics, if we can't be brilliant at the basics, if we can't deliver great service and a smile and an experience and hot, fresh, fast, flavorful food, we don't have any business changing up the menu to add new things," Kyle Gordon said.When the company does experiment, it uses limited-time offers to gauge customer response without adding permanent operational ...
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    23 Min.
  • Dodo Pizza’s playbook for international success
    Jul 15 2026

    In this episode of the Pizza Marketplace podcast, host Mandy Detwiler, editor of Pizza Marketplace, chats with Ilya Kholodnov, head of international marketing and sales for Dodo Pizza, and David Sweeney, champion of international franchising for Dodo Pizza, The brand was founded in Russia but is headquartered in Kazakhstan.

    Dodo Pizza has 1,500 stores and revenue of nearly $2 billion. It's sister company, Drink It, a coffee concept, has 150 stores in five countries.

    Sweeney attributes the brand's strong sales to its customer service. "I think the key thing is to have a really good customer experience to allow the technology or the technology should enable us to have a really good customer experience because we really look after the customer, make it easy to transact business, make sure the order is easy to place, that there is good variety, but not so much that confuses everybody. Make sure that when the order arrives into our stores, that order is processed in a way that is accurate and then it's timely and priced at roughly the right level for it to be at for the consumer to accept it as a really good value product and for it to arrive on time, hot and the order to be accurate. So the systems enable all of that to happen."

    Why did a pizza brand move into coffee?

    "Coffee was actually quite a logical step," Kholodnov said. "So maybe during conversation, you'll find out that our business is based on tech platform. And so it was very logical when we built a strong platform to scale franchise businesses, it was logical to add something more to that. So coffee seemed like a logical step to us."

    To learn more about Dodo Pizza's international operations, growth and foray into the coffee business, listen to the podcast in its entirety.

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    25 Min.
  • 70 years old and 'restarting': Shakey’s Pizza VP outlines fresh strategy for expansion
    Jun 10 2026

    In this episode of the Pizza Marketplace podcast, host Mandy Detwiler, editor of Pizza Marketplace, chats with Sonia Barajas-Najera, vice president of franchise administration for Shakey's Pizza. Shakey's began franchising in the 1950s shortly after it was founded.

    After a number of ownership changes, the brand currently has 43 units. There's a new flagship in Culver City that took two years to design and create, Barajas-Najera said, and has been well received by consumers who enjoy the restaurant's retro vibes, warm colors and 1980s memorabilia. Shakey's also did a rebrand, but at the core of the company is its food, which remains the same. Shakey's is known for its thin-crust pizza, as well as its pan pizza and proprietary items like its chicken and its iconic Mojo potatoes.

    With an 80s throwback style at its core, how does Shakeys keep the brand feeling cool for Gen Z while still being a home base for the Gen Xers who grew up there?

    "There's the Gen X, there's Gen Z. Everyone is in there," Barajas-Najera explained. "We've created a place that has allowed people to come in and just be themselves and disconnect from everything that we're always doing, rushing. We're coining it as slow, casual, because we're not fast, we're not casual. We're just a slow casual. Come in, have a good time, be entertained."

    When looking for franchisees, Barajas-Najera said they seek people who are passionate about the Shakey's Pizza brand. The Shakey's team gives its franchisees lots of support before, during and after opening.

    Barajas-Najera suggests potential franchisees do their due diligence and really research a brand before signing on the dotted line. Shakey's is a brand with 70 years of experience behind it, but it's going through an exciting chapter.

    "We feel like we're restarting," Barajas-Najera said. "We're just relaunching."

    To learn more about Shakey's and Barajas-Najera's role in its expansion plans, listen to the podcast in its entirety.

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    23 Min.
  • Mellow Mushroom VP shares secrets to long-term franchise success
    May 13 2026

    In this episode of the Restaurant Operator Podcast, host Mandy Detwiler, editor of Pizza Marketplace, chats with Jamie Cecil, vice president of franchise development for Mellow Mushroom.

    Mellow Mushroom started in 1974 and has grown to 160 units. The brand is known for its cool vibes. Each store is unique.

    "I like to call them kind of unicorns. There's not one store that looks alike, which is kind of fun, but it makes it a challenge as well. But every store has phenomenal pizza and great service. That's the goal," Cecil said.

    Cecil brings more than 30 years of restaurant industry experience to the table.

    "There's not a day that's like any other, I like that," he said. "So one call, I'm talking to a person that wants to do five stores. Next, I'm talking to a city about getting some variances. Next, I'm talking to a construction guy about some issues on a construction site. So it really has taken everything I've done throughout my career and kind of packaged it in one role. And I enjoy it. It's a fun, fun role to be a part of."

    Finding the perfect piece of real estate is the greatest challenge for the brand. That's changed over the years, and a standalone building in the right location sets the tone for a town.

    "Today's franchisee is more sophisticated than they were in the past. They're a lot more educated and they they've done a lot of footwork or groundwork on their own before they reach out to you," Cecil said. "So they kind of already have an idea of what they want to do. Whereas back then, they would just reach out and, let's do this. And that cycle was pretty quick. Now they want to visit with franchisees. They want to talk to franchisees. Obviously, Discovery Day is critical in our world, too. And they want to meet the executive team. They want to meet with the CEO and ask them questions about where they see this potential business going in the next five to10 years."

    To learn more about Mellow Mushroom's franchising and how the brand plans to grow in a tight market, listen to the podcast in its entirety.

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    20 Min.
  • Little Caesars VP of franchise development talks brand growth, solid operations
    Apr 8 2026

    In this episode of the Pizza Marketplace Podcast, host Mandy Detwiler, editor of Pizza Marketplace, talks to Bryan Ketelhut, vice president of franchise and business development for Little Caesars.

    Ketelhut has been with the company for years and now heads up domestic franchising. He's also a former franchisee himself.

    Little Caesars is known for its streamlined operations. From a development perspective, that simplicity makes the brand more attractive to prospective franchisees compared to more complex QSR models.

    "We focus on value, quality and convenience. That is our is our big messaging, right? We created Hot-N-Ready over 20 years ago, and we've always been a value brand. We cater to that value consumer," Ketelhut told Detwiler during the interview.

    The brand has its own supply chain with more than 20 distribution centers around the country.

    "Having that controlling the distribution channel as well is very important to a lot of franchises. When we're able to purchase food products or equipment wise more in bulk, we're able to keep those costs lower for our for our partners," Ketelhut added.

    To listen to the podcast in its entirety, click the link above.

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    21 Min.
  • The 4:30 am grind: How a cotton-field startup turned into an artisan pizza empire
    Mar 11 2026

    In episode of the Pizza Marketplace Podcast, host Mandy Detwiler, editor of Pizza Marketplace, talks to Joe Carlucci, founder and owner of Valentina's Pizzeria & Wine Bar in Alabama. Carlucci, who has dozens of years in pizza, is a member of the World Pizza Champions and a leader in the industry.

    Carlucci opened Valentina's, named after his daughter, in the midst of COVID. Prior to that, he'd owned a pizza food truck and would take it to neighborhoods to provide pizzas to neighborhoods during the COVID lockdowns. He would sell more than 500 pizzas a week, and saved every dime to open his brick-and-mortar restaurant.

    What started in a 1,500-square-foot space with 12 employees has turned into a 196-seat, 50-plus-staffed full-service restaurant. The original location was across the street from a cotton field. Carlucci would arrive at 4:30 a.m. and make pizzas throughout the day. He's since moved to a larger location and has trained a handful of pizzaiolos whom he trusts to make the brand's signature pies. He sources as much as he can locally.

    Carlucci has entered and won several awards at the International Pizza Challenge at International Pizza Expo. When he creates a new pizza, though, it isn't with judges in mind — instead he thinks about the customers first. But when his pizza creations win awards, he puts them on the menu. It's been a great advertising outlet for Carlucci.

    Carlucci hired a mixologist to pair signature cocktails with his artisan pizzas, so there's a craft cocktail list, and curated beer and wine lists.

    "I want to elevate this place. I don't want it to just be a pizzas place. ... It's not a pizza place. From the hostesses dresses to the bartenders in bow ties, to every single server, looks the exact same way," Carlucci said. "The standard is the standard here. We're not worried about what everybody else is doing. We're worried about what Valentina's is doing. How Valentina's could be better."

    To learn more about how Carlucci is changing the pizza game, listen to the podcast in its entirety.

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    26 Min.
  • Peter Piper Pizza truly engrained in the communities it serves
    Feb 11 2026

    In this episode of the Pizza Marketplace Podcast, host Mandy Detwiler, editor of Pizza Marketplace, chats with Genero Perez, chief marketing officer for Peter Piper Pizza, a legacy brand with more than 50 years in the industry.

    The brand has about 115 restaurants in Arizona, Texas, New Mexico and the northern part of Mexico.

    The restaurants all have a lunch buffet Monday through Friday from 11 a.m. to 2 p.m.

    Peter Piper "is an interesting concept because we target different demographics at different times of the day," Perez said. "So (the) lunch buffet is for those workers or families or a lot of construction workers, nurses, officers, people that need to grab a bite and obviously they don't want to break the bank. So our lunch buffet in the Arizona market is $10.99 for all you can eat. And we have pizza, pasta, salads, desserts and literally there's people that stack their plates with like 15 slices of pizza. Hey, no one's judging, right?"

    Perez, who was born and raised in Mexico City, moved to the U.S. about 25 years ago to further his education. It's important for Peter Piper Pizza to understand the cultures and values of the communities in which they are situated.

    "One of the things that I noticed being truly bilingual and native in Spanish is that a lot of brands translate. And with Peter Piper Pizza, we don't do that," Perez said. "We truly trans-create our programs and our campaigns. We want to make sure that we are using the cultural nuances from the community and that what we're trying hard to truly understand the different, you insights and holidays and traditions. So it's not only about the language, but understanding the cultural values."

    The brand creates all of its PR in both English and Spanish.

    "Obviously the Spanish language is integrated in everything we do — our website, our app, our campaigns, our messaging," he said. "Even when we reach out to media, we reach out in both languages. So it's really important for us to meet the consumer where the consumer is at, because a lot of the Hispanic consumers also may not necessarily speak Spanish, but consume news in Spanish."

    To learn more about Peter Piper's community involvement, listen to the podcast in its entirety.

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    25 Min.