Drop Call #6

Victor and I try to make sense of why 2026 is starting with all the queers getting ‘cancelled’.

• “Cancellation”
• Memetic Pile Ons
• Ginger Minj Vs The World
• Escape from Gag City
• Bowen Yang and Matt Rogers
• Dylan Mulvaney
• Professor Mel Curth
• Heated Rivalry (again again)
• The gays in the bubble
• Gotmik and Violet Chachki and Marilyn Manson
• Lindsay Ellis and Victor Vs Raya the Last Dragon
• Contrapoints
• Fujoshis Vs Khaliden
• Greg Rucka

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Find Victor @roughcopyzine on insta and @roughcopyzinebtn on tiktok!

Keep up to date by following @AlsoPurp on all socials.

Original podcast Artwork by Valentine M. Smith.

Video Production by Victor Alexander (@Ugly_knees on insta and @clevvergirl on Tiktok)

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NEXT UP: Trans Pride Brighton '25 (with Dr. Sam Hall, Phat Problem & Sarah Savage) (Pt 2)

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Tangent Episode #1**

*Apologies for the audio quality! It's not too bad but we were still learning. Miss Sundi will be back on the pod soon with the mic their voice deserves!*

*'Tangents' are audio-only episodes posted more frequently than Video Episodes because they require less work/research/editing

Expect quick reviews, edited out content, collabs, mailbags, live audio, and so on.. *

Miss Sundi and I sit down to talk about and queerness in the mainstream, baby gays and how we're imagining queer futures.

+ Find out how we also fit the following in:

• Troye Sivan & Sam Smith
• Queer Joy
• Post-Empowerment
• Critiquing with empathy
• Idina Menzel is a 'Beast'
• Queer male bodies
• Latinx Madonna
• Pride parties
• Janet Jackson moaning
• Queer utopias
• Moesha
• Queerness & palatability
• Remember when Adele was dressed like Jamaica?

And more!

If you like homework, or looking for a recommendation list you can find the 'Citation Page' for this episode on the website www.alsopurple.com. You'll find all the books, shows and pods referenced in this conversation.

Find Miss Sundi at sundi.in.the.park on Instagram and & @MJSundi elsewhere.

Keep up to date by following @AlsoPurp on all socials.

Music by PamperedFists & Anzahlung.

Podcast Artwork by Valentine M. Smith.

More at www.alsopurple.com

Drop Call #5

Victor and I review Pillion and catch up on all the gay media that's been hitting 'the discourse'

• SPOILERS
• Pillion
• Dudley in the closet
• Heated Rivalry (again)
• Fujoshis Vs Jordan Firstman
• Gay v Queer media
• Rotting in the Sun
• AMC's Anne Rice's Interview With the Vampire
• Paper Bag Girls
• I Love LA
• Drag Race
• Susan Sontag Camp Sexy
• Henry?
• Phantom Thread

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Directed by Harry Lighton, Pillion is a coming of age film about a timid young gay man named Colin (Harry Melling) who enters into a BDSM relationship with Ray (Alexander Skarsgard), an enigmatic and handsome biker

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Find Victor @ugly_knees on insta!

Keep up to date by following @AlsoPurp on all socials.

Original podcast Artwork by Valentine M. Smith.

Video Production by Victor Alexander (@Ugly_knees on insta and @clevvergirl on Tiktok)

Subscribe to our Youtube Page!

https://youtube.com/@referentialpod

More at www.alsopurple.com

Thank you for listening! Don’t forget to leave a 5 star rating and review to help people find the podcast!

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NEXT UP: Trans Pride Brighton '25 (with Dr. Sam Hall, Phat Problem & Sarah Savage) (Pt 2)

Drop Call #4

Victor and I were convinced by the gay internet to watch Heated Rivalry.

Listen try to us process the experience

• CockyHockeyBoys
• Yuri in Ottowa
• Western BL
• Demon Twink Media
• Subs and Doms and stereotypes
• Anal
• Yaoi
• Heartstoppers, Fellow Travellers, Red, White & Royal Blue, Queer As Folk
• Noah's Arc
• Double speed scale
• Queer v Gay
• The homonormative (?)

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Heated Rivalry is a Canadian sports romance television series created, written and directed by Jacob Tierney for Crave. Based on Rachel Reid's Game Changers novel series, it follows two rival professional hockey players, Canadian Shane Hollander (Hudson Williams) and RussianIlya Rozanov (Connor Storrie), whose on-ice animosity conceals a passionate, secret romance.

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Find Victor @ugly_knees on insta!

Keep up to date by following @AlsoPurp on all socials.

Original podcast Artwork by Valentine M. Smith.

Video Production by Victor Alexander (@Ugly_knees on insta and @clevvergirl on Tiktok)

Subscribe to our Youtube Page!

https://youtube.com/@referentialpod

More at www.alsopurple.com

Thank you for listening! Don’t forget to leave a 5 star rating and review to help people find the podcast!

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NEXT UP: Trans Pride Brighton '25 (with Dr. Sam Hall, Phat Problem & Sarah Savage) (Pt 2)

Drop Call #3

Ash and I got together to interview Alexander Pavlis the writer and creator of the indie series 'The Cages'. We talk about the work that went into making S1 and the kickstarter for S2!

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THE CAGES is a passion project created from the love of superpowered action and queer drama. Written and created by Alexander Pavlis, featuring art by CJ Camba, Olivia Ratkins, Seye Sanyaolu, Karen Charm, Addriano Divino and Leonardo Cino; and lettered by Danny Djeljosevic!

For the people of State 16, life is spent inside a walled city, governed by a mysterious AI company that tells them it's for their own good. There's no way out, except for [THE CAGES] --a massive, televised event in which robots and enhanced humans clash for the opportunity at recruitment into State 16's military force and a chance to see beyond the walls. One team of recruits, determined to go the distance, might discover along the way that the price for victory might be higher than they can pay.

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https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/thecages/the-cages-season-2-battle-round

Find Alexander and more about the project @al_pavlis on socials

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Keep up to date with Dr. Khaliden Nas by checking out www.alsopurple.com and following @AlsoPurp on all socials.

Hosted, produced & edited by Dr. Khaliden Nas.

Music by PamperedFists & Anzahlung.

Video production by Victor Alexander (Check out his film video essays @Clevvergirl on tiktok!)

Podcast Artwork by Valentine M. Smith.

Thank you for listening! Don’t forget to leave a 5 star rating and review to help people find the podcast!

NEXT UP: Trans Pride Brighton '25 (with Dr. Sam Hall, Phat Problem & Sarah Savage) (Pt 2)

(slight Act 2 spoilers from 54:15 to 57:11)

Tangent episode #17

REFERENTIAL rings in the new year with a 2 parter on the latest film adaptation of Act 1 of Wicked!

Welcome back to the ‘Session of The Witch’!

I’m joined by returning guest Miss Sundi to talk about the 20 year history Wicked the musical and its most recent film adaptation!

Directed by Jon M. Chu, ‘Wicked: Part 1’ is a film adaptation starring Cynthia Erivo and Ariana Grande.

The original musical featured music and lyrics by Stephan Schwartz, book by Winnie Holzman and starred Idina Menzel and Kristin Chenoweth. The musical itself was an adaptation of Gregory Macguire’s 1995 revisionist retelling of L. Frank Baum’s Wicked Witch of the West character (renamed Elphaba in tribute) from 1900’s Wonderful Wizard of Oz children’s novel.

[Part 1- 'The Music'

We recap of the story of Act 1 + a music commentary delving into the music of the musical track by track and note by note!]

A conversation about the history of the book, the shows musical origins and more of our thoughts on the recent film adaptation!

+

• A 120 year 'Ozian' history - from book, to musical, to movie)
• Interpretation
• Colour grading
• Vocalists.
• The war on terror
• Avengers level talent - A vocally demanding musical
• A roll call of musical titans who played Glinda and/Or Elphaba including: Idina Menzel, Kristin Chenoweth, Nikki Bentley, Rachel Tucker, Annaliegh Ashford, Brittney Johnson, Louise Dearman, Shoshanna Bean, Megan Hilty, Eden Espinosa, Alice Fern, Kerry Ellis, Jessica Vosk (...)
• Holding space in queer media
• CGI animals and zoology girlies
• Black Elphaba
• Rudity
• Practical effects
• Janet Jackson's turn as Aida
• Lesbians
• The racialisation of Elphaba
• The racialisation of Glinda
• Yuh
• The 'G' slur
• Act 1 vs Act 2 - soft spoilers
• Give us Hadestown the adaptation
• Jill Scott
• BOQ

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This one is for the musical nerds who found themselves awake at 2 am listening to Elphaba and Glinda high note compilations.

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Hosted and produced by Dr. Khaliden Nas.

Music by PamperedFists & Anzahlung.

All videos edited by Victor Alexander.

Podcast Artwork by Valentine M. Smith.

Keep up to date with Dr. Khaliden Nas by checking out www.alsopurple.com Follow me @AlsoPurp on all socials.

Find out more about REFERENTIAL’s upcoming episodes on www.alsopurple.com/citations

*'Tangents' are audio-only episodes posted more frequently than Video Episodes because they require less work/research/editing!

Expect quick reviews, edited out content, collabs, mailbags, live audio, and so on.. *

Thank you for listening! Leave the pod a rating to help other people find the show

REFERENTIAL rings in the new year with a 2 parter on the latest film adaptation of Act 1 of Wicked!

Welcome back to the ‘Session of The Witch’!

[an ongoing miniseries of episodes diving into the resurgence of witches in pop culture fiction and their thematic relationship to this moment in feminism, womanhood, queerness, misogynoir (and musicals!]

I’m joined by returning guest Miss Sundi to talk about the 20 year history Wicked the musical and its most recent film adaptation!

Directed by Jon M. Chu, ‘Wicked: Part 1’ is a film adaptation starring Cynthia Erivo as Elphaba and Ariana Grande as Glinda..

The original musical featured music and lyrics by Stephan Schwartz, book by Winnie Holzman and starred Idina Menzel as Elphaba and Kristin Chenoweth as Glinda. The musical itself was an adaptation of Gregory Macguire’s 1995 revisionist retelling of L. Frank Baum’s Wicked Witch of the West character (renamed Elphaba in tribute) from 1900’s Wonderful Wizard of Oz children’s novel.

We recap of the story of Act 1 + a music commentary delving into the music of the musical track by track and note by note!

+

• A recap
• Mother Schwartz
• The Glinda and Elphaba binary
• Motifs
• Glinda's double speak
• Optional notes
• Making Good
• Jonathan Bailey is thriving
• Back phrasing
• High stamina 'I want' songs
• LAR
• Sharon D. Clarke
• Fresher's week at Shiz
• The Mics are on
• Nessa Um Nessa
• Madame Morrible's DBS
• Men singing
• Sopranos and Belters
• BALLGOWN!
• Mindful riffing
• Lesbianism
• Colours('Colors')
• Musical Lesbianism

[Part 2 - 'The Movie'

A conversation about the history of the book, the shows musical origins and more of our thoughts on the recent film adaptation.]

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This one is for the musical nerds who found themselves awake at 2 am listening to Elphaba and Glinda high note compilations.

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Hosted and produced by Dr. Khaliden Nas.

Music by PamperedFists & Anzahlung.

All videos edited by Victor Alexander.

Podcast Artwork by Valentine M. Smith.

Keep up to date with Dr. Khaliden Nas by checking out www.alsopurple.com Follow me @AlsoPurp on all socials.

Find out more about REFERENTIAL’s upcoming episodes on www.alsopurple.com/citations

*'Tangents' are audio-only episodes posted more frequently than Video Episodes because they require less work/research/editing!

Expect quick reviews, edited out content, collabs, mailbags, live audio, and so on.. *

Thank you for listening! Leave the pod a rating to help other people find the show!