REFERENTIAL BOOK CLUB #1 (?)

Victor and I have read a book (!). Listen to our discussion of the queer book of the moment 'Fruit Fly' by Josh Silver.

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• Domestic Thrillers
• The state of Gay publishing
• Chemsex
• The Morning Show
• Brazilian Elections

Book spoilers from 30 mins!

https://www.patreon.com/ReferentialPodcast

Keep up to date with Khaliden and the podcast by following @AlsoPurp on all socials.

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Original podcast Artwork by Valentine M. Smith.

Find Kaela @itskaelashanti on tiktok and @KaelaShanti on insta!

Video Production by Victor Alexander (@Ugly_knees on insta and @clevvergirl on Tiktok)

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More at www.alsopurple.com

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NEXT UP: MIX #2: Joni Mitchell's 'Blue' with Karen Charm + The Girlsisode with Victor Alexander!

Video episode 3

Back to regular programming!

[Part 1 of a series.]

Have you ever heard the term 'digital blackface'? The Real Housewives franchise has spawned a million gifs and opinions; all asking if this is how 'we'' should be represented- and what these shows mean for the community.

For our third main episode we decided to examine that statement through a discussion about Bravo's Black led Real Housewives franchise (with some thoughts on the other casts sprinkled in).

Do these shows reduce Black women to something problematic for mass entertainment? Or is it us who do that work because of our hang ups?

I’m joined by screenwriter, social media producer and classically trained musician (?!) Lauren Warren (Nerd of Prey!)(Caw!!)(most recently a finalist in the ScreenCraft Virtual Pitch Competition) to talk all about Bravo's Real Housewives franchise.

We cover Real Housewives of Atlanta [RHOA] and Real Housewives of Potomac [RHOP], with thoughts on some of the other casts sprinkled throughout (Orange County, New York, New Jersey, DC, Salt Lake City and Vancouver).

Listen to us think about existing as a Black woman in public, failing in public, respectability and the weight of representation

+ Find out how we also fit the following into the discussion

• Secret lesbians, queerness, panic and RHOA
• Kim, whiteness and power in early RHOA
• Corporate activism as a commercial exercise
• Colorism, and RHOP
• The collapse of polite fiction, pretence and reality in public
• Shout out to The Nerds of Prey!
• Mash Ups and Remixes
• Alaska the cat attacks
• Pocket gays
• Double standards
• The reality reckoning
• Reality vs Documentary
• Nene Leakes you will always be famous
• Bravo’s Flop era
• Existing

If you like homework, or looking for a recommendation list you can find the 'Citation Page' for this episode on my website, available from the first Sunday after the episode is up! !

https://www.alsopurple.com/citation-corner

You'll find all the quotes, books, tv, and pods referenced and recommender in this conversation.

Find Lauren Warren @TheValidVictorian on Instagram and @IamLaurenP2 on Twitter all the socials!

Keep up to date by following @AlsoPurp on all socials.

Produced and hosted by Dr. Khaliden Nas.

Music by PamperedFists & Anzahlung.

Podcast Artwork by Valentine M. Smith.

Video production by Victor Alexander (Find more on the REFERENTIAL Youtube page!)

Find out what I’m up to at www.alsopurple.com

Don’t forget to leave a 5 star rating and review to help people find the podcast!

Thank you for listening!

New drop call episode! I'm joined by new guest and friend of the pod Noor from The Reality Is podcast! We talk about what it's like existing as an opinionated muslim queer on the internet

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• Orientalism: reimagined.
• Muslim cool
• Ed Sheeran would hate this episode
• Diaspora link up
• Whatsapp Aunties
• Raising Muslim kids
• Reality and reality tv
• Hypocrisy empaths
• Islam, queerness and homophobia
• Guilt and getting over it
• Intersectional Hell
• Global warming!
• Passing, hiding and existing
• Unpacking the valley!
• Is Kristen Doute ok?
• Turns out the patriarchy is bad everywhere

https://www.patreon.com/ReferentialPodcast

Keep up to date with Khaliden and the podcast by following @AlsoPurp on all socials.

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Find Noor @TheRealityIsPod on Instagram and Threads!

Additional video Production by Victor Alexander (@Ugly_knees on insta and @clevvergirl on Tiktok)

Subscribe to our Youtube Page!

https://youtube.com/@referentialpod

More at www.alsopurple.com

Original podcast Artwork by Valentine M. Smith.

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NEXT UP: MIX #2: Joni Mitchell's 'Blue' with Karen Charm + The Girlsisode with Victor Alexander!

Video Episode 5

Ringing in September with the long awaited Xenasode! I'm joined by returning guest Best Issue Ever's Sara Century!

This SUPERSIZED episode features discussion of:

• A brief history of lesbianism on television
• A queer history of 90s television
• Birth of the slashfic
• Xena as a queer historical text
• Why Lucy Lawless & Renee O'Conner will always be gay famous
• Why Xena did it first
• Leather & Lesbians
• Butch queers exist
• WHOOSH
• Revengence
• Worst Ex Girlfriend
• Rural Queers
• Callisto, ally?
• Syndication, serialisation, long form storytelling, spin offs.
• Sam Raimi
• R.J. Stewart
• Rob Tapert
• Liz Friedman
• Bruce Campbell!
• Karl Urban!
• Hercules The Legendary Journeys and Kevin Sorbo (flop)
• Elizabeth Taylor
• Lord of the Rings
• Wire-Fu
• Buffy the Vampire Slayer
• My Name is Earl (?)
• Context, subtext and subtext in context
• "Subtext" queers
• The glee effect
• FRIENDS
• Embracing the 'problematic'
• Pacifism
• Sara and Khaliden's Top 4 'Xena the Warrior Princess' episodes for newcomers!

Support REFERENTIAL on Patreon!

+ Check out the official unofficial part 1of this crossover on Best Issue Ever where I talk to Sara about my favourite lesbian couple in comics

Find Sara at www.saracentury.com and support Sara Century and Alex Segura's comic The Forgotten Five!

Original podcast Artwork by Valentine M. Smith.

Follow Khaliden @alsopurp everywhere

Subscribe to Best Issue Ever everywhere you get your pods!

Follow @saracentury on instagram!

Video Production by Victor Alexander (@Ugly_knees on insta and @clevvergirl on Tiktok)

Subscribe to our Youtube Page!

https://youtube.com/@referentialpod

More at www.alsopurple.com

Thank you Layla for the help with this edit!

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Click here to order BEYONCÉ—ONE OF ONE History Lessons, Love Letters, and Affirmations from a Cultural Icon

Stream the video on Spotify or watch the full video episode on YOUTUBE

Beyonce’s Renaissance is over, now we’ve entered the Age of Enlightenment. Welcome to the rodeo? Yeehaw!

I’m joined by Antonia Jade King (poet, writer, and soon to be Dr. AJ writing her thesis about the cultural and historical significance of the Fresh Prince of Bel Air) after watching the Renaissance film for a discussion on Beyoncé and the cultural conversations we’ve been having about her ever since she burst on the scene in 1997.

AJ and I risk it all, come find out if we get cancelled by the Beyhive!

+ Find out how we also fit the following in:

• Introducing my new silent cohost (her name is Alaska)
• Beyoncé Giselle Knowles Carter!
• The Renaissance film
• Texas? Hold 'em?
• Cowboy Carter?
• Marathons
• Rough swimming while Black
• The Color Purple
• Billionaires
• Black capitalism
• In praise of Black laziness
• Pinkwashing
• Revolutionaries vs revolutionary narratives
• Black womanhood in the context of queerness
• The myth of Black excellence
• Justice for Ayo! Remember when Jennifer Lopez sang the ’n’ word?
• What we can expect from idols
• Remember bell hooks’ beef with Beyonce?

If you like homework, or looking for a recommendation list you can find the 'Citation Page' for this episode on my website, available from the first Sunday after the episode is up! ! https://www.alsopurple.com/citation-corner

You'll find all the books, shows and pods referenced in this conversation.

Find AJ @AntoniaJadeKing on all the socials!

Keep up to date by following @AlsoPurp on all socials.

Music by PamperedFists & Anzahlung.

Podcast Artwork by Valentine M. Smith.

More at www.alsopurple.com

30 min Preview! Tune in for the full Part 1 of our Xena (& Gabrielle) The Warrior Princess deep dive later this week!

A Queer Retrospective of Xena The Warrior Princess (& Gabrielle)

Ringing in September with the long awaited Xenasode! I'm joined by returning guest Best Issue Ever's Sara Century!

This 30(ish) min preview includes discussion of:

• A brief history of television lesbians
• Rural Queers and television
• A queer history of 90s television
• Syndication, serialisation, long form storytelling, spin offs.
• Kevin Sorbo keeps flopping
• Hagspolitation -evil nanny
• Elizabeth Taylor
• Lord of the Rings
• Buffy the Vampire Slayer/Xena comparison
• Context v subtext or Subtext in context
• The glee effect
• FRIENDS
• the 'problematic'

+ Check out the official unofficial part 1of this crossover on Best Issue Ever where I talk to Sara about my favourite lesbian couple in comics

Check out Sara Century and Alex Segura's The Forgotten Five!

Original podcast Artwork by Valentine M. Smith.

Follow Khaliden @alsopurp everywhere

Subscribe to Best Issue Ever everywhere you get your pods!

Follow @saracentury on instagram!

Video Production by Victor Alexander (@Ugly_knees on insta and @clevvergirl on Tiktok)

Subscribe to our Youtube Page!

https://youtube.com/@referentialpod

More at www.alsopurple.com

Thank you Layla for the help with this edit!

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Ash and I break down the fifth episode of the new season of X-Men '97 and are joined on the third chair by Michael aka BlackGayComicGeek

Featuring discussion of the episode :

"Weapon X, Lies and DVDs"

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Original podcast Artwork by Valentine M. Smith.

Follow Khaliden @alsopurp everywhere

Subscribe to Ash& and find Ashley @ashandPod

Follow BlackGayComicGeek on instagram!

Video Production by Victor Alexander (@Ugly_knees on insta and @clevvergirl on Tiktok)

Subscribe to our Youtube Page!

https://youtube.com/@referentialpod

More at www.alsopurple.com

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NEXT UP: X-Men '97 Sessions S2 E6 with Ash Alleyne (& Connor Goldsmith) [+] Xena (& Gabrielle) The Warrior Princess (with Sara Century)

[Apologies for the delay, dealing with computer issues and a bout of depression. stay tuned this week while we play catch up on the feeds!)

Ash and I break down the fourth episode of the new season of X-Men '97 and are joined on the third chair by the One True Kayla (Rayless & Reluctant)

Featuring discussion of the episode :

"Rise of Apocalypse (Pt. 2)"

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• take me to the king
• SLAVERY
• Ash’s editing takeover
• Oh brother this guy STINKS
• remember when Bishop lost the baby?
• WHERE IS STORM

Head to ASH & to listen to our conversation on episode 5!

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This episode was produced by Ash Alleyne!

Original podcast Artwork by Valentine M. Smith.

Follow Khaliden @alsopurp everywhere

Subscribe to Ash& and find Ashley @ashandPod

Follow OneTrueKayla. and check out her content on YouTube!

Video Production by Victor Alexander (@Ugly_knees on insta and @clevvergirl on Tiktok)

Subscribe to our Youtube Page!

https://youtube.com/@referentialpod

More at www.alsopurple.com

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NEXT UP: X-Men '97 Sessions S2 E6 with Ash Alleyne (with Connor Goldsmith) [+] Xena (& Gabrielle) The Warrior Princess (with Sara Century)

[Apologies for the delay, dealing with computer issues and a bout of depression. stay tuned this week while we play catch up on the feeds!)