Learning to Love: https://a.co/d/07ZmY8S2

Delora (“Dee”) hosts Michelle and Rayna in a conversation with author Kendra M. Dublin about her book, Learning to Love. Kendra shares that she recognized a lack of empathy as early as age nine and describes a 30-year journey—from legalism, pride, and shame to trials like alcoholism, job loss, marriage changes, and discipleship—that taught her to love as God loves.

The group discusses why love isn’t innate apart from personal faith in Christ, why Christians keep records of wrongs due to distorted views of God shaped by family and lack of Scripture and discipleship, and why God’s love does not fluctuate with obedience though conviction and grief are real.

Kendra explains that Old Testament warnings reveal readers’ heart conditions, emphasizing God’s holiness, mercy, and loving correction, and the episode closes teasing a question about love, forgiveness, and boundaries.

00:00 Welcome and Introductions

01:58 Origins of Learning to Love

06:36 Why Love Feels Separate

08:45 God Keeps No Record

12:05 Legalism and Pride

14:43 Does Obedience Change Love

18:54 Old Testament Warnings

26:42 Our Lens Shapes God

29:10 Love Has Boundaries

31:21 Closing and Where to Buy

Resources for Church Leaders

People Growth Discipleship System: https://www.kendradublin.com/funnel

Pathway to Patience: https://www.amazon.com/Pathway-Patience-Kendra-Dublin/dp/1304626768/

Resources for Individuals

People Growth Discipleship Workbook: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0DYDPYVKD

Pathway to Patience Book: https://www.amazon.com/Pathway-Patience-Kendra-Dublin/dp/1304626768/

Speak to Your Storm: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0DYPCKHJ9

God’s Perspective for Me® Volume 1: https://www.amazon.com/Gods-Perspective-Me-Kendra-Dublin/dp/153952616X

God’s Perspective for Me® Volume 2: https://www.amazon.com/Gods-Perspective-Me-Vol-2-ebook/dp/B079RFT4N7

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Calendar: https://calendly.com/kendra-dublin/interview

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Learning to Love: https://a.co/d/07ZmY8S2

In this episode, Kevin D. Jones Sr. interviews author Kendra Dublin about her book Learning to Love, contrasting conservative theology with legalism and emphasizing growth in understanding God.

Kendra shares what she is still learning about love—especially humility, resisting pride, and freeing others as God has freed her—and discusses her top books, placing Learning to Love as her number one, alongside titles like Pathway to Greatness, Pathway to Patience, God’s Perspective For Me, People Growth Discipleship Growth, and Follow Me.

She explains her hope that readers leave the book believing God loves them personally, leading them to love themselves and live out the greatest commandments.

Kevin closes by urging disciples to move beyond knowing about God’s love to boldly living in it, using an adoption analogy to describe believers who still operate in fear.

00:00 Growing Beyond Legalism

01:54 Love Lessons Still Unfolding

03:12 Pride Humility and Freedom

04:36 Hip Hop Top Five Books

08:55 What Readers Should Change

12:17 Closing Thanks and Next Steps

17:25 Adopted Child Illustration

19:04 Why You Need This Book

22:21 Final Call to Live Loved

Resources for Church Leaders

People Growth Discipleship System: https://www.kendradublin.com/funnel

Pathway to Patience: https://www.amazon.com/Pathway-Patience-Kendra-Dublin/dp/1304626768/

Resources for Individuals

People Growth Discipleship Workbook: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0DYDPYVKD

Pathway to Patience Book: https://www.amazon.com/Pathway-Patience-Kendra-Dublin/dp/1304626768/

Speak to Your Storm: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0DYPCKHJ9

God’s Perspective for Me® Volume 1: https://www.amazon.com/Gods-Perspective-Me-Kendra-Dublin/dp/153952616X

God’s Perspective for Me® Volume 2: https://www.amazon.com/Gods-Perspective-Me-Vol-2-ebook/dp/B079RFT4N7

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Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@kendradublin/

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Guest Opportunity and Contact Information

Partnership Opportunities: kendra@kendradublin.com

Calendar: https://calendly.com/kendra-dublin/interview

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Learning to Love: https://a.co/d/07ZmY8S2

In this episode of “Learning to Love,” the speakers reflect on God’s agape love as the greatest miracle and discuss personal growth from bitterness into intentional inner work, including self-rebuke, naming emotions, and speaking life.

They explore how receiving God’s love reshapes the way correction and disagreement are handled—listening for the Spirit in others, allowing edification, and viewing people through maturity levels rather than demonizing imperfection.

The conversation addresses those who believe God loves them but doesn’t “like” them, challenging a transactional view of God that ties His love to circumstances, comparison, and social media-driven envy.

They emphasize abiding with God, gratitude, and trusting His grace even when prayers aren’t answered as desired, using Paul’s “thorn” to highlight growth, humility, and avoiding legalistic self-interpretation.

00:00 Bitterness to Agape

03:06 Handling Correction Well

06:46 Humanizing Disagreement

12:16 When God Feels Distant

13:28 Transactional Faith Trap

18:35 Grace in Closed Doors

21:02 Talking to Younger You

26:04 No Checkboxes Just Growth

27:39 Paul’s Thorn Reframed

30:02 Final Thoughts and Outro

Resources for Church Leaders

People Growth Discipleship System: https://www.kendradublin.com/funnel

Pathway to Patience: https://www.amazon.com/Pathway-Patience-Kendra-Dublin/dp/1304626768/

Resources for Individuals

People Growth Discipleship Workbook: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0DYDPYVKD

Pathway to Patience Book: https://www.amazon.com/Pathway-Patience-Kendra-Dublin/dp/1304626768/

Speak to Your Storm: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0DYPCKHJ9

God’s Perspective for Me® Volume 1: https://www.amazon.com/Gods-Perspective-Me-Kendra-Dublin/dp/153952616X

God’s Perspective for Me® Volume 2: https://www.amazon.com/Gods-Perspective-Me-Vol-2-ebook/dp/B079RFT4N7

Social Media/Website

Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@kendradublin/

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/kendradublin/

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/iamkendradublin/

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Guest Opportunity and Contact Information

Partnership Opportunities: kendra@kendradublin.com

Calendar: https://calendly.com/kendra-dublin/interview

Links for audio podcast

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Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0mYDEtftohwOplYeeUMAVe

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Learning to Love: https://a.co/d/07ZmY8S2

Learning to Love: Discipleship, Rebellion, and the Hard Work of Real Love

In this episode of the “Learning to Love” conversation, the host interviews Kendra M. Dublin about what discipling believers has taught her about love beyond studying Scripture, using 1 Corinthians 13 to explain how patience, kindness, and perseverance become real when walking with people through immaturity, setbacks, and conflict.

They discuss how lived experience turns biblical truth from theory into embodied practice, especially when disciples want to quit or resist correction.

The conversation then explores Kendra’s chapter on how God “bypasses rebellion” in His pursuit of humanity and how legalism can cause Christians to respond with judgment rather than love, prayer, and warning.

They also debate boundaries, forgiveness, reconciliation, and loving those who do wrong, ending with an invitation to buy “Learning to Love” on Amazon.

00:00 Intro and Setup

00:23 Discipleship Teaches Love

01:27 First Corinthians Love

04:23 Theory Becomes Reality

08:00 Love Bypasses Rebellion

10:21 Legalism Versus Love

13:56 Personal Season and Reflection

15:46 How to Love in Spite

18:08 Truth and Growth

18:30 Loving Your Enemies

19:07 Reflecting on Faults

20:07 Love Versus Like

21:21 Theory Meets Testing

23:19 Prayerful Baby Steps

24:51 Believers and Wrath

26:34 Boundaries Debate

29:43 Gospel and Reconciliation

32:08 Sanctification Spectrum

33:19 Closing and Book Plug

Resources for Church Leaders

People Growth Discipleship System: https://www.kendradublin.com/funnel

Pathway to Patience: https://www.amazon.com/Pathway-Patience-Kendra-Dublin/dp/1304626768/

Resources for Individuals

People Growth Discipleship Workbook: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0DYDPYVKD

Pathway to Patience Book: https://www.amazon.com/Pathway-Patience-Kendra-Dublin/dp/1304626768/

Speak to Your Storm: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0DYPCKHJ9

God’s Perspective for Me® Volume 1: https://www.amazon.com/Gods-Perspective-Me-Kendra-Dublin/dp/153952616X

God’s Perspective for Me® Volume 2: https://www.amazon.com/Gods-Perspective-Me-Vol-2-ebook/dp/B079RFT4N7

Social Media/Website

Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@kendradublin/

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/kendradublin/

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/iamkendradublin/

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Guest Opportunity and Contact Information

Partnership Opportunities: kendra@kendradublin.com

Calendar: https://calendly.com/kendra-dublin/interview

Links for audio podcast

Podbean: https://pgdwithkendradublin.podbean.com

Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0mYDEtftohwOplYeeUMAVe

Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/people-growth-discipleship/id1745786230

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Learning to Love: https://a.co/d/07ZmY8S2

Learning to Love: Writing Through Warfare, Vulnerability, and Meditation

In this episode, Pastor Kevin reconnects with Kendra M. Dublin to continue their conversation about her book, Learning to Love, after an earlier interview missed several questions.

They discuss how resting in God’s inseparable love anchors life through change, why Kevin wrote the foreword after hearing Kendra’s approach to love, and how a grace-centered view of Jesus contrasts with legalism.

Kendra shares that the most emotionally taxing chapter to write was chapter one, “Wrestle with Love,” because it required deciding how much to reveal about spiritual warfare since age nine.

She says her biggest fear isn’t vulnerability but being seen as a public theologian without formal training. The conversation emphasizes meditation as essential for embodying Scripture, deepening intimacy with God, and fueling Spirit-led creativity in preaching and writing, and closes by inviting viewers to buy the book on Amazon and return next week.

00:00 Welcome Back and Book Plug

01:04 Audio Mishaps and Monkey Business

01:59 Gods Love in Life Changes

03:36 Why He Wrote the Foreword

04:32 Grace Over Legalism

06:21 Hardest Chapter to Write

10:55 Fear and No Formal Training

13:34 Being a Vessel and Giftedness

18:36 Why Meditation Matters

26:09 Trusting the Spirit to Create

28:22 Manuscript Preaching to Freedom

31:32 Wrap Up and Next Episode

Resources for Church Leaders

People Growth Discipleship System: https://www.kendradublin.com/funnel

Pathway to Patience: https://www.amazon.com/Pathway-Patience-Kendra-Dublin/dp/1304626768/

Resources for Individuals

People Growth Discipleship Workbook: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0DYDPYVKD

Pathway to Patience Book: https://www.amazon.com/Pathway-Patience-Kendra-Dublin/dp/1304626768/

Speak to Your Storm: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0DYPCKHJ9

God’s Perspective for Me® Volume 1: https://www.amazon.com/Gods-Perspective-Me-Kendra-Dublin/dp/153952616X

God’s Perspective for Me® Volume 2: https://www.amazon.com/Gods-Perspective-Me-Vol-2-ebook/dp/B079RFT4N7

Social Media/Website

Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@kendradublin/

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/kendradublin/

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/iamkendradublin/

https://www.kendradublin.com

Guest Opportunity and Contact Information

Partnership Opportunities: kendra@kendradublin.com

Calendar: https://calendly.com/kendra-dublin/interview

Links for audio podcast

Podbean: https://pgdwithkendradublin.podbean.com

Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0mYDEtftohwOplYeeUMAVe

Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/people-growth-discipleship/id1745786230

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Learning to Love: https://a.co/d/07ZmY8S2

In this episode of the Learning to Love series, the conversation explores why love is foundational to understanding identity, emphasizing that “God is love” and that centering life on God’s love shapes character and behavior beyond feelings.

Kendra connects love to scripture’s greatest commandments and to humility as a byproduct of love that enables surrender and teachability. She reflects on her earlier self, academic failure, and the shift from living “for me” to living as Christ’s disciple, arguing that believers surrender their will to God’s will.

Kendra also shares how God’s deliverance from alcoholism—and later an experience of deliverance from severe shaking—deepened her confidence in God’s power and expanded her grace toward others.

The discussion between Kendra and Kevin closes with insights from her book, Learning to Love, including how earthly fathers can shape or distort one’s view of God as Father, and an invitation to return for part two.

00:00 Why Love Defines Identity

02:34 Love Beyond Feelings

05:35 Depth With Practical Balance

07:39 Surrender Over Self

10:47 Humility From Love

15:53 Deliverance And Grace

22:16 Seeing God As Father

26:14 Part One Wrap Up

Resources for Church Leaders

People Growth Discipleship System: https://www.kendradublin.com/funnel

Pathway to Patience: https://www.amazon.com/Pathway-Patience-Kendra-Dublin/dp/1304626768/

Resources for Individuals

People Growth Discipleship Workbook: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0DYDPYVKD

Pathway to Patience Book: https://www.amazon.com/Pathway-Patience-Kendra-Dublin/dp/1304626768/

Speak to Your Storm: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0DYPCKHJ9

God’s Perspective for Me® Volume 1: https://www.amazon.com/Gods-Perspective-Me-Kendra-Dublin/dp/153952616X

God’s Perspective for Me® Volume 2: https://www.amazon.com/Gods-Perspective-Me-Vol-2-ebook/dp/B079RFT4N7

Social Media/Website

Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@kendradublin/

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/kendradublin/

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/iamkendradublin/

https://www.kendradublin.com

Guest Opportunity and Contact Information

Partnership Opportunities: kendra@kendradublin.com

Calendar: https://calendly.com/kendra-dublin/interview

Links for audio podcast

Podbean: https://pgdwithkendradublin.podbean.com

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Learning to Love: https://a.co/d/07ZmY8S2

The host interviews author Kendra Dublin about her book Learning to Love, exploring when she first realized she needed to learn love and how that journey shaped her faith and life.

Kendra shares a childhood memory of the Oklahoma City bombing that exposed her lack of empathy, and explains how God used decades of growth, storms, and self-awareness to teach her compassion and wisdom in how she speaks to others.

They discuss how legalism produced harshness, fear, and prejudice, including a painful moment when a former friend repeatedly appeared on her social media feed shortly before dying, prompting conviction about missed evangelism and bias.

Kendra also describes moving from knowing God loves her to receiving His love, including her recovery from alcoholism rooted in shame, and a 2024 spiritual storm that led her to remove harmful influences and return to Scripture.

00:00 Welcome and Setup

01:29 Meet Kendra Dublin

02:53 Why Learning to Love

05:45 Love in Daily Life

10:30 Opening With Oklahoma

13:49 Legalism Versus Love

25:45 Receiving God’s Love

31:05 Storm and Discernment

36:49 Love Shapes Identity

37:22 Closing and Next Episode

Resources for Church Leaders

People Growth Discipleship System: https://www.kendradublin.com/funnel

Pathway to Patience: https://www.amazon.com/Pathway-Patience-Kendra-Dublin/dp/1304626768/

Resources for Individuals

People Growth Discipleship Workbook: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0DYDPYVKD

Pathway to Patience Book: https://www.amazon.com/Pathway-Patience-Kendra-Dublin/dp/1304626768/

Speak to Your Storm: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0DYPCKHJ9

God’s Perspective for Me® Volume 1: https://www.amazon.com/Gods-Perspective-Me-Kendra-Dublin/dp/153952616X

God’s Perspective for Me® Volume 2: https://www.amazon.com/Gods-Perspective-Me-Vol-2-ebook/dp/B079RFT4N7

Social Media/Website

Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@kendradublin/

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/kendradublin/

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/iamkendradublin/

https://www.kendradublin.com

Guest Opportunity and Contact Information

Partnership Opportunities: kendra@kendradublin.com

Calendar: https://calendly.com/kendra-dublin/interview

Links for audio podcast

Podbean: https://pgdwithkendradublin.podbean.com

Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0mYDEtftohwOplYeeUMAVe

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Learning to Love: https://a.co/d/07ZmY8S2

In this episode of Learning to Love, Kendra M. Dublin and Sister Vicky discuss the chapter “Lovingly Separated” using Romans 1:18–19 to explain how God’s love is defined by holiness, righteousness, and justice rather than culture’s view of love.

They address the question of how a loving God relates to hell, emphasizing that God offers life through Christ and that rejecting Him is choosing death, with no middle ground.

They talk about repentance as a changed mind, denying self, accountability to God, and how pursuing worldly gain without Christ leaves people without peace.

The conversation highlights abiding in God (John 15) to be fruitful, includes a gospel invitation about Jesus’ sacrifice, death, and resurrection, and ends with a prayer for salvation and restoration.

00:00 Welcome Back and Theme

00:12 Lovingly Separated Romans 1

01:52 God’s Love Holiness

03:32 Choosing Life or Death

04:44 Repentance and Accountability

07:15 Everyday Choices and Denial

10:18 Worldly Success No Peace

13:32 Abide and Bear Fruit

16:08 Gospel Invitation and Salvation

19:16 Prayer for the Unsaved

21:49 Closing Thanks and Next Episode

Resources for Church Leaders

People Growth Discipleship System: https://www.kendradublin.com/funnel

Pathway to Patience: https://www.amazon.com/Pathway-Patience-Kendra-Dublin/dp/1304626768/

Resources for Individuals

People Growth Discipleship Workbook: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0DYDPYVKD

Pathway to Patience Book: https://www.amazon.com/Pathway-Patience-Kendra-Dublin/dp/1304626768/

Speak to Your Storm: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0DYPCKHJ9

God’s Perspective for Me® Volume 1: https://www.amazon.com/Gods-Perspective-Me-Kendra-Dublin/dp/153952616X

God’s Perspective for Me® Volume 2: https://www.amazon.com/Gods-Perspective-Me-Vol-2-ebook/dp/B079RFT4N7

Social Media/Website

Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@kendradublin/

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/kendradublin/

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/iamkendradublin/

https://www.kendradublin.com

Guest Opportunity and Contact Information

Partnership Opportunities: kendra@kendradublin.com

Calendar: https://calendly.com/kendra-dublin/interview

Links for audio podcast

Podbean: https://pgdwithkendradublin.podbean.com

Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0mYDEtftohwOplYeeUMAVe

Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/people-growth-discipleship/id1745786230

Amazon Music: https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/f9149c8b-b492-493e-ae69-809f16ecfc85

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