On Episode 323 of Outside The Round, Matt Burrill sits down with longtime Raised Rowdy friend Bryan Martin for one of his most personal conversations yet. Now more than a year completely sober, Bryan opens up about finally finding peace, becoming present for his family and looking back at the years when alcohol, pills, life on the road and the pressure of his career were pushing him further away from himself.

The guys dive deep into Bryan's new album, OD’in On A Dream, a project written during some of the most chaotic moments leading up to his sobriety. Bryan shares the stories behind songs like “Complex,” “Tug O’ War,” “Real Man,” “Home Sweet Living Hell” and the title track, while reflecting on the mindset that took him from working oil rigs and struggling to get noticed in Nashville to watching “We Ride” become a triple-platinum hit. For Bryan, this record represents the final chapter of that version of his life — music he hopes can help people who are still fighting their own battles. Bryan also talks about trading the outlaw lifestyle for a quieter life with his family on a farm in Leiper’s Fork, learning that vulnerability doesn't make him weak and rediscovering why he started writing songs in the first place. He looks ahead to taking a break from the road and working with Shooter Jennings on music that digs even deeper into the songwriter behind the artist. It's a raw conversation about addiction, accountability, family, success and discovering that peace can mean more than any hit record ever could.

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• (00:00:00) - Introduction and Welcome
• (00:00:23) - One Year Sober: Reflecting on Change
• (00:02:54) - We Ride Goes Triple Platinum
• (00:04:13) - Following Up a Hit and New Album Themes
• (00:05:35) - Writing Oding on a Dream
• (00:07:08) - Writing Complex After Morgan Wallen Tour
• (00:09:31) - Accountability and Early Memories in Nashville
• (00:11:19) - Coming to Town: Chip on the Shoulder
• (00:12:58) - Stage Anxiety and the Bottle
• (00:14:19) - Becoming the Outlaw Persona
• (00:16:01) - Life in Leiper's Fork and the House Fire
• (00:19:16) - Meeting Rose and Finding Peace
• (00:21:27) - Getting Sober: Rehab and Relapse
• (00:23:42) - Being a Distinct, Authentic Artist
• (00:25:53) - Writing Real Man and Bus Songwriting Stories
• (00:28:52) - Old Dogs with Chase Matthew
• (00:31:31) - Long Hard Lesson Learned and Shooter Project
• (00:33:45) - Things I Can't Say in a Song
• (00:35:18) - The Turning Point: Rose's Ultimatum and Sobriety Tattoo
• (00:37:44) - Life as a Present Father
• (00:40:24) - Family Update: Kids and New Life
• (00:43:07) - Outside Cuts: Last Train to Heaven
• (00:44:32) - Sobriety and Having Just One Drink
• (00:49:40) - The Wrong Pipe and Demons Don't Sleep
• (00:52:05) - Working with Producer Nick Gibbons
• (00:54:10) - Looking Ahead: Shooter Jennings Collaboration
• (00:56:18) - Taking a Break from Touring
• (00:59:16) - Up and Coming Artists to Watch
• (01:01:45) - Advice for Young Songwriters Moving to Town
• (01:05:57) - Closing Thoughts and What the Album Means

On Episode 322 of Outside The Round, Matt Burrill sits down with Mark and Andre of City Creed for their first-ever podcast appearance. The longtime childhood friends share their journey from growing up together between Argentina and Florida to experimenting with rock, hip-hop, pop and eventually finding their lane in country music. From Guitar Hero and homemade beats to building their own studio and recently establishing a home base in Nashville, the guys break down the unconventional road that shaped City Creed. The conversation dives into their years as independent artists, building a massive audience through covers before making the risky decision to start over and focus on original music. They talk about learning how to make themselves impossible to ignore, discovering their love for storytelling through songs like “Nights and Days” and “Gambling Man,” and why maintaining complete control over their creative process has been such an important part of their identity. Of course, the guys tell their side of the wild story behind “The Barrel of Her Gun” with Cloe Hubbard — from writing the back-and-forth murder-ballad-style duet during a spontaneous writing trip to watching a social clip explode and scrambling to finish the record in Argentina within days. They also talk about their loyalty to the team that has been with them since the beginning, reaching millions of listeners around the world and preparing to finally take City Creed from the studio to the live stage.

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• (00:00:12) - Welcome and intros
• (00:01:09) - Growing up in Argentina and Florida, childhood friendship
• (00:01:36) - Guitar Hero and early music beginnings
• (00:02:56) - High school band and early 2000s music nostalgia
• (00:04:41) - Starting City Creed during COVID lockdown
• (00:06:50) - Songwriting process and genre blending
• (00:08:30) - Origin of the name City Creed
• (00:09:10) - Viral TikTok cover and building an audience
• (00:10:23) - Country covers and transition into country sound
• (00:12:45) - Cracking the cover-to-original conversion problem
• (00:13:35) - Deleting TikTok and starting from scratch
• (00:14:45) - Gambling Man and finding the country voice
• (00:16:35) - What makes a country voice and genre-bending
• (00:17:47) - The art and mystery of acoustic recording
• (00:19:53) - Writing Barrel of a Gun in Gatlinburg
• (00:21:36) - The viral posting accident and racing to release
• (00:23:46) - All-night production sprint to hit the deadline
• (00:25:57) - Loyalty to their production team
• (00:27:20) - Writing the duet with Chloe
• (00:28:36) - What makes Chloe's voice special
• (00:30:06) - The meaning behind the ring mark line
• (00:31:24) - Hooking listeners and the short attention span era
• (00:32:27) - Love of vinyl and full album listening
• (00:34:33) - Success of Barrel of a Gun and monthly listeners
• (00:35:40) - Seven years of grinding and valuing the journey
• (00:37:24) - Staying rooted in Argentina while growing in Nashville
• (00:38:18) - Live show stories and Betty's debut
• (00:39:48) - Hobbies outside music: golf and gear collecting
• (00:41:35) - Advice on home studio gear for new artists
• (00:44:14) - Obsessing over details listeners can't consciously hear
• (00:46:25) - Failure, growth, and goals for City Creed
• (00:47:27) - Music transcending language barriers worldwide
• (00:49:22) - Concert memories and favorite live acts
• (00:50:46) - Nashville's music community and co-writing culture
• (00:52:42) - Closing thoughts and shoutouts

On Episode 321 of Outside The Round, Matt Burrill sits down with rising artist Cloe Hubbard for her first-ever podcast appearance. Just five months after moving to Nashville from Santa Cruz, California, Cloe talks about diving headfirst into Music City, playing her first writers rounds almost immediately and quickly becoming part of the Raised Rowdy community. Cloe takes us back to singing outside a San Francisco bar at nine years old, playing three-hour acoustic gigs as a teenager and growing up on a wide mix of influences ranging from Johnny Cash and Merle Haggard to Nirvana, Amy Winehouse, Tyler Childers and Sierra Ferrell. She also opens up about the heavier stories behind songs like “The Devil’s Back,” “Men Used to Go to War” and her perspective-flipping version of Whiskey Myers’ “Broken Window Serenade,” and why connecting with listeners through vulnerable songs means so much to her. The guys also dive into the unbelievable story behind “Barrel of Her Gun” with City Creed — from writing it casually around a campfire to a viral social clip, a last-minute flight to Argentina and recording the song almost immediately to meet the demand from fans. Cloe talks about embracing spontaneity, developing a sound that's entirely her own and what's ahead as she prepares new music and plans to hit the road in 2027.

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• (00:00:00) - Welcome and Intro to Chloe Hubbard
• (00:00:38) - Moving to Nashville and Meeting the Crew
• (00:02:45) - Growing Up in Santa Cruz, California
• (00:05:14) - First Performance at Age 9 in San Francisco
• (00:08:55) - Teenage Gigging and the Pandemic Hits
• (00:11:06) - Playing Wineries, Breweries and First Real Stage
• (00:12:50) - The Spontaneous Decision to Move to Nashville
• (00:17:08) - Musical Influences from Country to Grunge
• (00:20:31) - Writing 'The Devil's Back' and Vulnerable Songwriting
• (00:24:47) - Meaning Behind 'Men Used to Go to War'
• (00:26:45) - Covering 'Broken Window Serenade'
• (00:29:41) - Meeting City Creed and the Writer's Retreat
• (00:33:09) - Recording 'Barrel of Her Gun' in Argentina
• (00:35:45) - The Song Goes Viral Worldwide
• (00:39:04) - Chloe's Distinct Voice and Songwriting Style
• (00:41:56) - Growth, Maturity and Finding Peace
• (00:43:57) - Life Before Music: Sales, College and Athletics
• (00:46:14) - Hobbies Outside of Music
• (00:47:05) - Future Plans, New Music and Touring
• (00:50:28) - Closing Remarks and Outro