This week’s episode is all over the place in the best way possible. We celebrate the release of Annex B’s second EP, Oblivion, reflect on making art without chasing validation, and unpack the weird emotional reality of creating things you genuinely care about. We also talk about an experience that accidentally helped reaffirm our film script writing-process, Liv beginning work on a Zenith-inspired book, and why inspiration is sometimes more important than originality.

Beyond the creative spirals, we catch up on our trip to Houston, our ongoing housing search before our lease ends, recording acoustic covers in Ennis under intense time pressure, and Liv’s recent audiobook obsession after finishing both Narnia and The Hunger Games. We also have a very real conversation about living with misophonia, the ways it affects our relationship and future fears around it, plus our thoughts on Billie Eilish’s insane Hit Me Hard and Soft 3D experience directed by James Cameron.

Basically: art, burnout, books, noise sensitivity, Zillow, and emotional damage.

Chapters:

0:00 - Intro

1:13 - Charting #1 in Our Apartment

5:13 - This Episode Is Somehow Current

7:57 - Your Dream Project Might Still Be Mid

21:11 - Fine, We’ll Just Make It Ourselves Then

29:56 - Stories Born From Stories

35:58 - In Sickness and in Mouth Noises

1:02:31 - Hit Me Hard and Soft and Also in 3D

1:10:24 - Audio Book Olympics & Post-Narnia Depression

1:20:15 - Mother’s Day and Emotional Growth

1:22:51 - The Ennis Sessions

1:27:11 - House Dreams, Apartment Budget

1:31:43 - Outro

This week’s episode has everything: kolaches, conflict resolution, Michael Jackson discourse, audiobook slander, White Rock Lake walks, and Atlas spiraling deeper into his movie-writing era.

We talk about trying to become the kind of adults who grocery shop with a list, the communication patterns we’ve started noticing in our relationship, and why vulnerability with friends matters more than we think. We also share thoughts on the Michael Jackson biopic, the pressure parents put on kids to succeed, Atlas’ first time watching The Devil Wears Prada, and the books Olivia has been obsessing over this week (plus one she absolutely hated).

Also featuring: friendship appreciation, acoustic EP rehearsals, health goals, and an alarming amount of emotional honesty.

Chapters:

0:00:00 Intro

0:03:11 Holy Kolaches and Meal Prep

0:06:30 Communication Issues (Remastered)

0:38:28 A Fellowship of Yappers

0:39:54 Moonwalking Into Generational Trauma

0:51:23 Oblivion Is Taking Over the Plot

0:55:46 An Abundance of Disappointment

0:59:58 Cardio for the Girls, Acoustic Sessions for the Boys

1:04:23 Atlas Discovers Fashion Cinema

1:10:28 The Sunday Night Pep Talk

1:19:13 Outro

In this episode, we recap a thought-provoking church message on why a “perfect” society doesn’t quite work in the real world, and share the personal rules we’re building our lives around right now to grow in discipline, health, and faith.

We also catch up on meaningful time with friends, talk through a very real (and very expensive) life update, and let you in on what we’re learning about money, priorities, and long-term goals. Plus: grocery dates, current watchlist reviews, a surprisingly productive audiobook streak, and a big update: our movie script is officially in the works!

Oh, and somewhere in there… an 18.5 mile walk.

Chapters:

0:00:00 Intro

0:05:24 Why Utopia Doesn't Survive Reality

0:31:01 Liv's Reset Blueprint

0:36:48 Baptisms & Catch-Ups

0:39:29 $4,500 Worth of Character Development

0:47:00 Errands, But Make It Romantic

0:51:46 Morally Grey Lawyers & Magical Lions

1:01:00 Turning Time Into Growth

1:03:41 We're Actually Doing This

1:11:32 Just a Light Stroll...

1:15:46 Outro

From Easter Sunday at Six Flags to a chaotic weekend in Little Rock, this week had a little bit of everything. We start by recapping the beginning of the week with a fun trip to Six Flags with the Murtha sisters that quickly sets the tone for what becomes a very eventful stretch of days filled with small disasters and car issues that refuse to resolve themselves.

By Friday, we make our way to Little Rock where the boys spend time at Oaklawn watching horse races while Liv gets some intentional one-on-one time with Atlas’ grandparents. We have late-night hangouts, unexpectedly amazing tacos, and conversations that somehow drift from current life updates into full-blown childhood nostalgia spirals. We also talk through the more unexpected moments of the trip, including Jake performing in a salsa band as a very committed white boy on trombone. The weekend wraps with meaningful time spent with family, a lot of laughs, and some genuinely sweet conversations that balance out the chaos.

And to close it all out, we share a big podcast update: we’ve officially upgraded our setup with new microphones and are stepping into a new era where we’ll start bringing guests onto the show soon!

Chapters:

0:00:00 Intro

0:02:21 Easter, Rollercoasters, and Public Enemy #1 (Teenage Boys)

0:21:08 $0 Parking, $$$ Consequences

0:27:05 Check Engine Light: A Love Story

0:31:58 We Finally Called Saul

0:34:42 She Said She'd 'Shoot the Families'???

0:47:00 Lucky Number 4 Strikes Again

0:52:48 Couple Goals, Honestly

0:56:10 Forgetful Jake, Unforgettable Tacos

1:02:21 A White Boy Played Salsa and Somehow We Ended Up at Floam?

1:08:10 Southern Tail Talks & Podcast Upgrade

1:14:57 Outro

This week had a little bit of everything.

We spent most of our time working on visuals for Annex B. Late nights, parking garage shots, and racing the weather to pull everything off. Somewhere in the middle of all that, we took our cat on an office field trip, Liv “accidentally” walked a half marathon, and we had some unexpectedly deep conversations with family that stuck with us.

Also… Liv’s car broke. Or maybe it didn’t? We’re still not entirely sure. What started as a “simple fix” quickly turned into a glowing dashboard and a lot of second-guessing.

Throw in a rainy shoot, some emotional moments, and a strong opinion or two about reality TV, and you’ve got this week’s episode.

Chapters:

0:00:00 Intro

0:04:07 When Your Parents Become Your People

0:10:14 Hugo's Big Night Out

0:14:40 A Lens on Letting Go

0:23:29 Dashboard Christmas Came Early

0:33:40 Timbre & Taillights

0:37:20 Cinemark Membership Evangelists

0:44:40 I Just Went to UPS… Anyway I Walked 13 Miles

0:49:50 Rain, Lights, Action

0:59:10 This Show Tests Our Patience

1:09:35 Outro

“This week, we reflect on a meaningful Sunday church service and discuss how we’re trying to bring more structure, like prayer, Sabbath, and community, into our daily lives. We share our journey finding a church home and building friendships as young married couples, and Atlas talks business with my dad, which leads into a conversation about our own financial goals as a couple.

We also chat about the media we’ve been enjoying. From Breaking Bad and Love Is Blind to Project Hail Mary and Narnia and how it’s inspiring our creative projects. We wrap up by catching up with friends we haven’t seen in a while, all while our cats keep reminding us that interruptions are part of life.

0:00:00 Intro

0:01:19 From Sunday Service to Monday Motivation

0:29:45 Young, Married, and Socially Clueless

0:40:38 Atlas' Next Steps: Father-Son Insights

0:46:48 Saving, Spending, and Not Ruining Our Fun

1:05:21 Entertainment That Actually Entertains

1:17:36 Audiobooks & the Art of Not Boring Yourself at Work

1:19:43 Evenings Well Spent with the People Who Matter

1:21:09 Outro

Somewhere between Lewisville and Midland, on the way to celebrate Atlas’ birthday and shoot content for Annex B at the Monahans dunes, the conversation unfolds into a deep dive on kids, parenting, and the direction society seems to be heading.

We talk honestly about our own childhoods, what worked, what didn’t, and the patterns we’ve carried with us into adulthood. That leads into a bigger conversation about what we’re seeing now in Gen A: shorter attention spans, constant stimulation, and a noticeable struggle with self-soothing in a world dominated by screens. We unpack the idea of “brain rot,” not just in younger generations, but in ourselves, and how easy it is to become dependent on distraction.

From there, we shift into the future. What we’d want to do differently, what values matter most to us, and how we hope to raise grounded, present, and emotionally aware kids in a culture that often pulls in the opposite direction. It’s thoughtful, honest, and a little all over the place in the best way.

0:00:00 Intro

0:01:34 Is Gen Alpha the most screwed generation?

0:04:15 Georgie Boys and the Gen Alpha face

0:09:36 Gen Z vs Gen Alpha: social anxiety isn't the same

0:29:42 The greenhouse tree analogy: struggle builds roots

0:35:27 iPad kids, boredom & the pacifier problem

0:40:24 Raising our future kids in a tech-saturated world

0:53:30 Strict vs gentle parenting

0:56:58 Divorce and the collapse of the family unit

1:01:10 Leading by example: on set and at home

1:04:03 Parents owning their mistakes

1:13:40 Generational timeline: Gen X through Gen Beta

1:16:10 Outro

This week’s episode is a bit of a rollercoaster. Olivia kicks things off while feeling under the weather and recaps our disappointing trip to Six Flags Over Texas, where limited rides and long waits made even Flash Passes feel pointless.

We also talk about some creative changes behind the scenes and why we’re putting Atlas Drums on pause for now to focus on other projects.

Next, we dive into our Enneagram types and what they reveal about our compatibility. Atlas also shares stories from his time on set working with Paramount on a project connected to the Yellowstone universe.

Later, we talk about scoring last-second tickets to see Conan Gray on the Wishbone Tour dressed as Steve and Robin from Stranger Things.

We wrap things up with Olivia’s outing with the Murtha Girls to the Fort Worth Stockyards, thoughts on the new movie Hoppers, and starting the Breaking Bad series.

0:00 - Intro

2:15 - Sick Day at Six Flags

27:23 - Putting Down the Drumsticks (For Now)

39:12 - Painting by Enneagram Numbers

43:48 - Lights, Camera, Dutton Ranch

50:53 - Steve & Robin Hit the Pit at the Wishbone World Tour

69:16 - Murtha Girls, Movies, and Meth Labs

72:11 - Outro