This week’s episode is all over the place in the best way possible. We celebrate the release of Annex B’s second EP, Oblivion, reflect on making art without chasing validation, and unpack the weird emotional reality of creating things you genuinely care about. We also talk about an experience that accidentally helped reaffirm our film script writing-process, Liv beginning work on a Zenith-inspired book, and why inspiration is sometimes more important than originality.

Beyond the creative spirals, we catch up on our trip to Houston, our ongoing housing search before our lease ends, recording acoustic covers in Ennis under intense time pressure, and Liv’s recent audiobook obsession after finishing both Narnia and The Hunger Games. We also have a very real conversation about living with misophonia, the ways it affects our relationship and future fears around it, plus our thoughts on Billie Eilish’s insane Hit Me Hard and Soft 3D experience directed by James Cameron.

Basically: art, burnout, books, noise sensitivity, Zillow, and emotional damage.

Chapters:

0:00 - Intro

1:13 - Charting #1 in Our Apartment

5:13 - This Episode Is Somehow Current

7:57 - Your Dream Project Might Still Be Mid

21:11 - Fine, We’ll Just Make It Ourselves Then

29:56 - Stories Born From Stories

35:58 - In Sickness and in Mouth Noises

1:02:31 - Hit Me Hard and Soft and Also in 3D

1:10:24 - Audio Book Olympics & Post-Narnia Depression

1:20:15 - Mother’s Day and Emotional Growth

1:22:51 - The Ennis Sessions

1:27:11 - House Dreams, Apartment Budget

1:31:43 - Outro