From Switzerland to southern Lebanon, this episode follows the chain linking the Iran deal, Hezbollah, Trump, Netanyahu, and Israel’s strategic isolation. Daniella and Yossi revisit the history of US-Israel ties, debate whether Iran’s nuclear ambitions remain the central threat, and consider how Israel should think about survival in a less predictable Middle East.

What happens when everyone talks about a conflict, but not with the people at the center of it? Daniella and Yossi Alpher discuss Israel’s exclusion from negotiations over a war it fought, think tanks that debate Israel without Israelis, and an Israeli political system that keeps avoiding both Palestinians and Arab citizens of Israel. The conversation ends with a more practical question: when Netanyahu and Trump lie on TV, do you mute them, or keep listening because they still matter?

What does it take to lead the Mossad? In this episode, Daniella and Yossi Alpher trace the history of Israel’s intelligence leadership through stories of controversial appointments, unexpected successes, operational failures, and political entanglements. Along the way, they discuss Meir Dagan’s impact on the Mossad, Tzvi Zamir’s role before the 1973 war, the limits of Israeli involvement in Lebanon, and why the head of an intelligence service must know when to stay out of politics.