AliveCor built its name on a single-lead ECG that let ordinary people check their heart rhythm at home. In this episode, CEO Priya Abani explains how the company is now building a healthcare enterprise business around a newly cleared 12-lead device, a GE Healthcare integration and a Medicare program, while its consumer business keeps growing and its long legal fight with Apple continues.

• The 12-lead expands the market rather than replacing the hospital cart. Cleared for 39 cardiac conditions, including heart attacks, the device goes where a $15,000 to $20,000 ECG cart never did: primary care, concierge medicine, urgent care, hospital at home and even dentist offices.

• Integration is the answer to the point-solution problem. AliveCor is building into GE Healthcare's Muse platform, which sits in 87% of large US hospital systems, and is choosing EHR partners carefully for new markets.

• The consumer business funds the enterprise push. Gross profit from direct-to-consumer sales is being reinvested in the healthcare enterprise, employer and payer, and biopharma channels instead of chasing profitability right now.

• Engagement comes from a path forward, not just a diagnosis. About 350,000 KardiaCare subscribers take roughly 30 ECGs a quarter, and that base became the testing ground for blood pressure and diabetes services.

• Medical grade is the dividing line. Priya argues the winners will be the companies that clearly separate wellness tech from FDA-cleared, clinically validated AI.

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• [00:02:10 - 00:03:40] Priya runs the numbers: 400 million ECG recordings, 6.4 million patients, nearly 40 countries.

• [00:03:40 - 00:04:20] The 12-lead device is cleared for 39 cardiac conditions, including heart attacks.

• [00:05:15 - 00:06:00] A pocket-sized 12-lead opens up dentist offices, airplanes, cargo ships and schools.

• [00:10:40 - 00:11:45] How the GE Healthcare Muse integration answers the point-solution problem.

• [00:15:20 - 00:16:15] Why a 12-lead ECG that doesn't require disrobing matters for women around the world.

• [00:18:30 - 00:20:00] Priya on a 180-person company standing up to the largest corporation in the world.

• [00:23:30 - 00:24:30] Printing every customer review and highlighting what patients wanted next.

• [00:30:15 - 00:32:00] Clinical AI versus LLMs, and why Ask Kardia only talks about heart health.

Insurance companies are moving fast on agentic AI, and Aetna is one of the clearest examples of what that looks like in production. In this episode, Nathan Frank, Chief Digital and Technology Officer at Aetna, the insurance business of CVS Health, explains how AI agents are cutting administrative burden for nurses, why Aetna refuses to use AI for care denials, and what it will take to give every member their own AI health agent within the year.

• Aetna's AI agents pull data from multiple platforms, providers, and EHRs to prepare clinical notes automatically, giving the company's 12,000 care management nurses 90 minutes back per day.

• Aetna does not use AI to deny care. Nathan Frank draws a hard line here: AI supports auto-approvals and administrative work, but clinicians review any case with missing information.

• 84% of providers in Aetna's annual survey believe AI and agentic AI will lead to better outcomes, a signal the company is using to justify deeper investment in interoperability and clinical data exchange.

• An early version of an AI scheduling agent is already in production, handling the "homework" of booking appointments. Nathan expects a fully autonomous AI health agent for members within the next year.

• Model cost management is becoming a core discipline: Aetna is routing workflows to lower-cost models where possible instead of defaulting every task to frontier AI.

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• [00:03:00 - 00:04:00] How Aetna's AI agents pull data from multiple EHRs to prepare clinical notes for nurses before patient visits

• [00:04:00 - 00:04:30] The result: 90 minutes back per day for clinicians, redirected to patient care, not homework

• [00:06:00 - 00:07:00] Aetna's 10-plus years of AI and machine learning history, and its 3,000 data scientists

• [00:12:00 - 00:12:30] Nathan Frank's direct statement: Aetna does not use AI to deny care

• [00:13:00 - 00:13:30] The provider survey finding that 84% believe agentic AI will lead to better outcomes

• [00:16:00 - 00:17:00] How Aetna sorts signal from noise among healthcare AI startups

• [00:21:00 - 00:22:00] An early version of the AI scheduling agent is already live, with a fully autonomous member health agent expected within the year

SUMMARY

Arundhati Parmar speaks with Jill Schwartz-Chevlin, Chief Medical Officer at Vinca, about the evolution of palliative care from a hospital-based, end-of-life service to a community and home-based model for patients living with serious illness. Jill explains how Vinca grew from an advanced care planning platform into a value-based palliative care company serving patients across five states, primarily through Medicaid and Medicare Advantage plans.

The conversation covers the critical distinction between palliative care and hospice, the cost savings data that health plans are paying attention to, and what it will take for Medicare to finally build a sustainable reimbursement model for the specialty.

KEY TAKEAWAYS

• Palliative care is not hospice. It is symptom management and whole-person support for patients still pursuing active treatment for serious illness, including cancer, COPD, and advanced heart failure.

• More than 75% of hospitals now have palliative care teams, but their positioning around end-of-life discussions has created a widespread misconception that palliative care equals dying.

• Home-based palliative care through Vinca produces a 42% reduction in ER admissions and a 53% reduction in hospitalizations.

• Only three states (California, Hawaii, and New Jersey) have established a Medicaid benefit specifically for palliative care. Traditional Medicare offers no such benefit.

• The current fee-for-service model for palliative care is not sustainable. Most palliative care programs linked to hospices survive only because the hospice subsidizes them.

KEYWORDS

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Links and resources

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• aparmar@medcitynews.com

• Arundhati Parmar (@aparmarbb) on X

• MedCity News

EPISODE HIGHLIGHTS

• [00:02:04 – 00:02:36] Jill defines palliative care: symptom relief, patient wishes, team-based approach
• [00:03:11 – 00:03:46] Why hospital palliative care teams created the end-of-life association
• [00:06:13 – 00:07:06] Vinca's 15-year journey from advanced care planning to full palliative care services
• [00:11:43 – 00:12:07] The data: 42% ER reduction, 53% hospitalization reduction
• [00:12:52 – 00:13:31] Patient story: metastatic pancreatic cancer, golf one month ago, ER the next
• [00:18:47 – 00:19:29] Jill clarifies the hospice misconception: 90% of hospice care happens at home
• [00:22:50 – 00:24:10] Why Medicare's fee-for-service model for palliative care is failing and what should replace it