The Runner screenplay was good enough to make the 2023 Black List. It was also, as its director puts it, unmakeable: a car chase at night, in the rain, through Los Angeles, with a mudslide shutting down the 101.

Screenwriters Miles Hubley and Tommy White, along with director Scott Waugh (Need for Speed), sit down with Brian and Bailey to discuss Runner (Angel Studios, starring Alan Ritchson and Owen Wilson), the eleven-year road to their first produced feature, and what happened along the way.

What are the two kinds of screenwriting, and how does the second make everything besides the dialogue irrelevant? How do you write a chase scene through a city you’ve never set foot in? What happens when Owen Wilson pictures his character as a bon vivant in a Panama hat? What do you say when your director pitches an ending you can’t bear, but your star loves it?

And how could the best thing for a screenwriter be finally having a boss?

It’s a first-ever podcast appearance for Miles and Tommy, and Scott is right there to make sure it doesn’t go to their heads. All three have plenty to say about egos, trust, over-writing, and why the only script worth writing is the one that feels true.

Produced by Brian Landwehr and Bailey Patterson.

Two seventeen-year-olds with mutual crushes egged one another into trying out for their college sketch groups. A few years later, their Yale graduation speech went viral, and made them the youngest writers in the history of The Tonight Show.

Writing partners, showrunners, and married couple Rebecca Shaw and Ben Kronengold sit down with Brian and Bailey to discuss the second season of Adults (FX), the leap from writing sketches to running their own series, and why every emerging comedy writer needs to find their people.

How does the pace of late night TV make every writer a baby showrunner? Why would anyone walk away from The Tonight Show with nothing new lined up? How do you keep a Gen Z slang from expiring before new episodes even air? What happens when you pitch “live-action Big Mouth for your twenties” to Nick Kroll’s face?

And why might the skills it takes to produce comedy be diametrically opposed to the ones it takes to write it?

Rebecca and Ben have plenty to say about trust, voice, and staying ready for your lucky break, and how Adults grew from a friend group's inside jokes into a series all its own.

Produced by Brian Landwehr and Bailey Patterson.

A moment of snorkeling panic deep in a Tulum cenote became a joke between friends before it became the inspiration for a shark movie that made the 2019 Black List.

Screenwriters Aja Gabel and MJ Wesner and writer/director Jeff Wadlow sit down with Brian and Bailey to discuss The Devil’s Mouth (Amazon Prime Video), its seven-year journey getting to the screen, and what it takes to build a lasting career in show business.

How do you write a shark movie with a predator already right there within the friend group? What sort of things might a director change when tackling a project they didn’t write? What’s the difference between selling a script and having a career? How do you pitch a project you haven’t written yet?

And how do your particular writing talents make you unique but not special?

Jeff, Aja and MJ have plenty to say about what changed, what stayed the same, and how they made it all fit together as The Devil’s Mouth moved along from idea to screenplay to production to the screen.

Produced by Brian Landwehr and Bailey Patterson.