In this episode of the Bee Formless™ Flow-Driven CEO Podcast, I had a grounded, pragmatic conversation with Nathan Dench, Co-founder of ProcurePro, about life, leadership, business, and modernising construction procurement with systems that actually work.

Nathan brings a refreshing mix of ruthless pragmatism and human-centred leadership. We talked openly about healthy conflict between co-founders, building under uncertainty, reducing burnout, and why clarity beats complexity when scaling real businesses in traditional industries like construction.

This one is for founders and leaders who want less noise, better tools, and teams that can actually flow.

Through the Bee Formless™ methodology, we explored:

LEARN (Letting go)
✨ Pivoting procurement thinking from AI hype to real construction solutions
✨ Understanding healthy vs unhealthy stress and conflict in co-founder dynamics

UNLEARN (Reimagine & reshape)
✨ Rethinking construction admin with ProcurePro to save hours per task
✨ Letting go of fragmented back-office processes in favour of automation that supports relationships

RELEARN (Test & implement)
✨ Using AI and systems to improve productivity without losing trust
✨ Building a culture of authenticity, transparency, and ruthless pragmatism

ACTIVE RECOVERY (Reflect & reset)
✨ Moving from burnout to life.work.flow with sustainable routines
✨ Growing a remote company while maintaining culture, rhythm, and celebration

🎥 Watch the full episode:
https://youtube.com/shorts/SHItvcAyCfE

About Nathan Dench
Nathan Dench is Co-founder & Co-Head of Engineering at ProcurePro, a construction procurement platform helping contractors streamline packages, contracts, and compliance. He’s also Co-founder of Hyra iQ and part of Australia’s Top 100 Young Entrepreneurs (2025).

Connect with Nathan
🌐 https://procurepro.co
🔗 https://www.linkedin.com/in/nathandench

💭 Where could ruthless clarity replace complexity in your business right now?

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Book a complimentary 60-minute Bee Formless™ Diagnostic to explore reshaping your leadership, team, or business from the inside out.
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In this Flow-Driven CEO episode, Jolly Nanda and I explore life, leadership and business through the lens of humanising healthcare data, moving beyond metrics to context, capturing real-time patient evolution through connection, and taking calculated risks that align with values and outcomes.

Through the Bee Formless™ methodology, we explored:

LEARN (Letting go)
✨ Innovative Care, Beyond Fear: naming what holds patients & organisations back so impactful change can emerge
✨ Data Without Context: why decisions fail when we don’t see the whole picture

UNLEARN (Reimagine & reshape)
✨ Constant Human Change: capturing patient evolution in real time (not just snapshots)
✨ Breaking Barriers: reshaping business & health in a new tech world

RELEARN (Test & implement)
✨ Decode the Patterns: using context to improve communication & decisions
✨ Adaptive Business: taking calculated risks for modern success

About Jolly Nanda
Jolly Nanda is the Founder & CEO of Altheia, focused on unlocking and humanising healthcare data to improve patient outcomes. With a background spanning technology, product and operations, she has led interoperability and change initiatives across healthcare and beyond. Jolly previously built VIKRITI Management Consulting, and Altheia Predictive Health has been recognised in industry programs and spotlights for its innovative approach to context-rich data and decision-making.

Where to find more from Jolly
🌐 Website: https://altheia.com
🌐 Website: https://vikriti.com
🔗 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jollynanda/

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Thinking of leaving a stable role to build?

In this Flow-Driven VC episode, Barry Winata (Managing Partner, Metagrove Ventures) and I explore life, leadership, business and investing through the lens of the overlooked backbone of the economy, logistics, supply chains, real-world ops, where context beats code. We dig into founder decision-making, AI’s real impact, and how an inside-out approach shapes durable companies and outcomes.

Through the Bee Formless™ methodology, we explored:

LEARN (Letting go)
✨ Leaving the 6-Figure Comfort Zone: why founders jump, and what you must release to start
✨ “I Don’t Know” (Yet): recognising context gaps and when to seek mentors & the right help

UNLEARN (Reimagine & reshape)
✨ Tech in Overlooked Markets: a logistics & supply-chain renaissance (why it matters now)
✨ AI × Startups × VC: reframing moats, risks, and the evolving role of capital & teams

RELEARN (Test & implement)
✨ Automate the Toil: design systems that free time/energy and lift whole-being performance
✨ Founder Support Stack: practical tips & tools for decision velocity and investor-ready execution

About Barry Winata
Barry Winata is Managing Partner of Metagrove Ventures, an early-stage firm operating between Sydney and San Francisco and investing across the US, Australia, SE Asia and New Zealand. With a background spanning engineering, product, growth and operations, Barry supports founders to build context-rich, execution-strong companies.

Where to find more from Barry
🌐 Website: https://metagrove.vc
🔗 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/barrywinata/
📰 Alpha Bytes Newsletter: https://beesletter.substack.com/
𝕏 X: @barrywinata

What overlooked, high-friction customer problem in your market is urgent and expensive, yet ignored and could be your durable wedge? 👇

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