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Macky Outlaw and Jus continue their discussion on the use of force continuum — the step-by-step levels of response that law enforcement and military personnel are trained to follow, from presence and verbal commands all the way to deadly force as a last resort.

Drawing from their Marine Corps experience, they talk about how this structured approach keeps situations from escalating unnecessarily and protects everyone involved. They address heated online debates where many have claimed that an unarmed woman climbing through a broken window during the January 6 events at the Capitol should have been shot.

The guys examine the specifics of that incident and dive into questions about whether the Capitol Police officer followed standard operating procedures. They discuss whether lower levels of the use of force continuum — such as clear verbal warnings and less-lethal options — were properly considered before deadly force was used.

They keep the conversation grounded in training principles, accountability, and consistency in how force is applied, regardless of the political moment. No cheering for any side — just straightforward talk about rules, reality, and what the evidence shows in high-pressure situations.

This episode is for anyone interested in law enforcement standards, military discipline, and honest examination of controversial cases.

Tune in for a measured look at a topic that still divides people years later.

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Macky Outlaw and Jus are back with another raw episode, kicking it off with some wild Marine Corps stories from the old days — the good, the bad, and the straight-up dumb decisions that happen when young guys with too much testosterone and not enough supervision get their hands on serious firepower.

They dive into real cases of Marines doing incredibly stupid shit: stealing weapons from the armory, trying to smuggle gear off base, and the predictable (and often hilarious in hindsight) ways they got caught. From court-martials to ruined careers, they break down why these boneheaded moves happen and what the Marine Corps taught them about accountability, chain of command, and the long-term cost of short-term stupidity.

Then they shift to the civilian side: a cop who thought it was a good idea to sell his own service pistol on the side. They unpack how that kind of dumb move unravels fast — the paper trail, the internal affairs investigation, and the brutal reality that even people who carry badges can torpedo their lives with one greedy or reckless decision.

No glorifying crime, just straight talk about how even trained professionals make rookie mistakes, why “it seemed like a good idea at the time” is never a defense, and the lessons that apply whether you’re in uniform or out.

If you’ve ever wondered how people with access to guns manage to screw up so spectacularly, this one’s for you.

Tune in — it’s equal parts cautionary tale and dark comedy.

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Macky Outlaw and Jus are back for a straight-talking episode that might make you rethink your entire digital life.

They start by swapping some classic Marine Corps stories — the kind of lessons in vigilance and situational awareness that hit different once you’re back in the civilian world.

Then they go full forensic deep-dive into the apps everyone thinks are “safe”: Signal, Snapchat, Telegram, WhatsApp, iCloud, Google Photos, and every other cloud-based messaging and storage app.

They break down exactly how these platforms leave behind recoverable evidence on your phone and in the cloud — even when messages supposedly disappear, get deleted, or are set to auto-destruct. From cache files and metadata to backups, sync logs, and forensic recovery techniques that divorce lawyers and investigators use every day.

No conspiracy theories — just hard realities about what actually survives on your device long after you think it’s gone, and why that can destroy you in divorce, custody battles, or any high-stakes legal fight.

If you’ve ever sent a message thinking “it’ll vanish forever,” this episode is your wake-up call.

Raw, practical, and zero sugarcoating.

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In this raw and unfiltered episode of the podcast, Macky Outlaw and Jus sit down to shoot the shit about their wild days in the Marines — the brotherhood, the chaos, the lessons that still hit hard today.

Then they pivot hard into the brutal reality of divorce and custody battles: why evidence is everything, how one photo, one text, or one bank statement can make or break your case, and the dirty tactics people use when kids and money are on the line.

Finally, they dive into one of the darkest true crime topics out there — women who’ve killed their husbands with insulin overdoses. They break down real cases, the science behind why insulin is such a sneaky murder weapon, how investigators catch it (or miss it), and what it says about motive, planning, and getting away with the “perfect” crime… until you don’t.

No sugarcoating. No PC filters. Just two guys talking straight about survival, justice, and the evil that hides in plain sight.

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Macky Outlaw and Jus start the show with a quick, no-nonsense chat about the War Powers Resolution — why they don’t think Trump is violating the law, and what the 1973 rules actually mean in practice. It’s fast, fun, and straight talk before they dive into the real meat of the episode.

Then it’s all about the digital clues that are changing the game for catching killers in the 21st century. The guys break down two chilling cases where technology left no place for murderers to hide:

• Dennis Rader (BTK): How a single floppy disk he arrogantly sent to the police ended up dooming him. They unpack the metadata, the church computer trail, and the old-school digital mistake that finally ended his decades-long killing spree.
• Bryan Kohberger & the Idaho 4 Murders: The cell phone pings, vehicle data, surveillance footage, and other digital breadcrumbs that built an airtight case against the suspect. Macky and Jus explore how modern forensics turned seemingly small traces into a complete timeline of the crime.

From floppy disks in the 2000s to always-on smartphones and surveillance grids today, this episode shows how “digital ghosts” are making it nearly impossible for killers to stay invisible. Expect deep dives, clear explanations, and the kind of unfiltered conversation you only get from Macky & Jus.

If you love true crime meets tech, or just want to understand how the smallest online slip-up can take down even the most careful criminals, this one’s for you.

Hit play — light start, heavy tech-crime deep dive.

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In this hard-hitting episode, Macky Outlaw and Jus break down the shooting of Ashli Babbitt during the January 6 Capitol events. An unarmed Air Force veteran and mother was fatally shot while climbing through a broken window in a barricaded door—yet the officer who pulled the trigger has been widely labeled a hero and cleared of any wrongdoing.

We examine how this case directly contradicts the long-standing American legal standard on deadly force: Deadly force is generally not authorized to protect property or to eject a simple trespasser. In the United States and similar legal systems, deadly force is only legally justified when the occupant reasonably believes it is necessary to prevent imminent death, serious bodily harm, or the commission of a violent felony (such as arson or rape).

Was there truly an imminent threat of death or serious injury to justify lethal force against Babbitt? Or was this a case of selective enforcement and political narrative overriding consistent rules? We discuss the video evidence, official investigations, the double standards in how force is applied, and what this means for equal justice under the law.

If you're tired of "rules for thee but not for me" when it comes to use-of-force standards, this episode is for you. Tune in for a no-holds-barred conversation on accountability, self-defense principles, and why the hero label here raises serious questions.

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In this raw and unfiltered episode of the podcast, Macky Outlaw and Jus sit down to shoot the shit about their wild days in the Marines — the brotherhood, the chaos, the lessons that still hit hard today.

Then they pivot hard into the brutal reality of divorce and custody battles: why evidence is everything, how one photo, one text, or one bank statement can make or break your case, and the dirty tactics people use when kids and money are on the line.

Finally, they dive into one of the darkest true crime topics out there — women who’ve killed their husbands with insulin overdoses. They break down real cases, the science behind why insulin is such a sneaky murder weapon, how investigators catch it (or miss it), and what it says about motive, planning, and getting away with the “perfect” crime… until you don’t.

No sugarcoating. No PC filters. Just two guys talking straight about survival, justice, and the evil that hides in plain sight.

Grab a drink, buckle up, and join the conversation.

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Join us for an unfiltered, no-BS chat about the wild ride from the Marine Corps to the police force and finally landing in private investigations. We break down the highs, the challenges, the skills that carried over (and the ones that didn't), funny stories from the field, and what it's really like switching worlds—from structured military life to street-level policing to running your own cases as a PI.

If you're a veteran thinking about law enforcement, a cop eyeing the private sector, or just love hearing authentic career stories with real talk, this one's for you. No Hollywood drama—just two guys sharing the truth about service, brotherhood, burnout, reinvention, and chasing leads in the civilian world. Hit play and let's talk shop!

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