This week’s episode is a deeply personal one for Ryan, as he opens up about the experience of watching his grandma live with dementia, and the impact it’s had on him. He shares why it’s something that truly scares him, and reflects on the complicated ways we process change, including his own feelings about wanting to hold onto someone as they once were.

We then get into the topic of sleepovers… when is the “right” age, will Leo be allowed, and what about adult ones? Louise and Ryan have very different views on what happens if Leo brings someone home in the future….

And with Louise deep in her reality TV era thanks to Temptation Island (we get Ryan’s very honest reaction to it), the conversation turns to reality shows more broadly… on whether they have any regrets about their Made in Chelsea days?

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Louise and Ryan head to UK Parliament to back the call for a maternity commissioner, with Louise sharing why this fight is so deeply personal. She opens up about her own experience of giving birth and the stark reality that care for women in the UK is still falling short, and why change shouldn’t have to come at the cost of tragedy.

Then it pivots. A weekend away sparks a story no one saw coming, with unexpected glimpse into Ryan’s past as butler in the buff 👀. There’s also a chat about The Fury’s and how their approach to parenting might hold up if Leo married young, or started to swear at them.

And finally, a simple question: should you share your location with your partner? Ryan’s a hard no. Louise couldn’t disagree more….

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Louise has had a rare few days alone while Ryan and Leo headed off on their first father–son trip. Ryan reflects on what that one-on-one time meant to him, while Louise opens up about something many mums don’t say out loud: that she enjoyed the space, and why she refuses to feel guilt for needing time to herself.

That honesty leads into a bigger conversation. Inspired by Emma Grede describing herself as a “three-hour mum”, we unpack the pressure around modern motherhood. How much time is “enough” with your kids, what’s expectation versus reality, and how our own experiences shape the kind of parents we want to be.

We also share a major surrogacy update. It’s a big step forward, and one that brings a mix of hope, nerves, and the weight of everything starting to feel very real. And to close, we answer a listener question about how we navigated our darkest moments together and what it really took to come out the other side.

00:00 Introduction

01:50 Our double date weekend away

03:26 Our driving habits

07:22 Sam forgot to book a hotel room!

15:32 Ryan first trip alone with Leo

19:48 Ryan's Vision of Fatherhood

28:28 Louise's Solo Time away from Leo

34:03 No Mum Guilt in Taking Time Off

37:39 Emma Grede ‘Three Hour Mom’ Controversy

41:34 Sacrifices and Adaptability in Parenting

43:43 Our BIG Surrogacy Update

52:37 Listener Question: Keeping the Spark Alive Through Trauma

58:51 See you next week!

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Louise and Ryan kick things off with a simple question, would they want a boy or a girl next? But their answers reveal something deeper, opening up a conversation about the quiet fears of parenting in a world shaped by the manosphere and everything kids are exposed to online.

That leads into screen time, boundaries, and the looming question every parent faces… what happens when your child asks for a phone? Their take might surprise you...

Plus, Louise shares why she chose to go sober, and a listener question about surrogacy uncovers something unexpected… was Ryan always sure he wanted kids?

00:00 Intro

00:40 Leo's Challenging Behavior Phase

10:53 What Will Leo Be Like When He Grows Up?

12:00 Do we want a boy or girl next?

12:55 The Manosphere and Raising Respectful Men

17:29 The Fear of Having a daughter

20:26 When Will Leo Get a Phone?

22:55 Screen Time and Parenting Challenges

48:02 Louise's Sobriety Journey

1:00:20 Ryan originally didn't want children

1:02:17 Looking Ahead in our surrogacy journey

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It’s a full Thompson takeover this week, with Sam and mum Karen joining Louise.

We get into teenage Louise… and it’s more chaotic than anyone remembers. This sparks a few long-overdue apologies from Louise, and some honesty about their family dynamic now. But it doesn’t stop there. Louise has something she’s been holding onto, and it opens up a conversation they’ve never had before as she asks for an apology of her own...

We also had to talk Made in Chelsea… with Karen’s reaction to them joining, plus her take on one of their most heated arguments. And of course, your questions: Sam as an uncle, the “favourite child” debate, and Sam as an uncle...Is he as good as Louise expected?

00:00 Team Thompson Episode Begins

02:02 Did Sam know he would be Louise's boss?

03:45 Sam’s university rejection story

08:56 Who was the better behaved child?

10:00 Sam reveals how Louise was as a teenager

16:00 Louise apologises to Sam and Karen

22:13 Sam’s apology to Louise never talked about before

30:00 How real is Made in Chelsea?

32:25 Karen watches MAFS!

33:10 Karen’s views on Sam and Louise joining MIC

35:35 Watching Sam and Louise’s most heated MIC clip

39:15 Reflections on doing reality TV

42:00 Surprise from Karen leaves her in tears…

43:30 How Sam’s neurodivergence affects his dating life

47:35 Who is the favourite child?

48:25 Louise’s opinion on Sam’s glow-up

52:42 Who fancies Pete more?

55:15 Is Sam as good an uncle as Louise thought?

59:00 The Karen debate!

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Louise and Ryan are back from Antigua and they have some BIG news…👀 After two years, Louise finally found her missing engagement ring. Which raises the question… is marriage finally on the cards?

They also debrief the trip, from both Leo and Big Mike’s testing moments to Louise almost breaking her sobriety, there’s a lot to unpack. They talk about managing their IVF journey while away, and how it shifted their whole approach to the holiday. It also opens up a conversation about how holidays look different now they’re parents, which leads to an unexpected debate… should pubs be allowed to ban kids?

And with marriage back in the mix, they get into prenups. Practical or unromantic? And is it something they’d actually consider…they get into a little role play to figure out what they really think!

00:00 We finally found our engagement ring!

09:10 Looking back on our Antigua trip

13:05 How holidays change when you have a child

17:00 Top tips for travelling with a child

20:25 Should children be allowed in pubs?

24:15 The moment Louise nearly broke her sobriety

34:50 How IVF reshaped our holiday experience

38:55 Letting go of beauty standards on holiday

42:00 Would we ever get a prenup?

47:15 Hypothetical cheating role-play

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Happy Birthday Louise!!! 🥳

Of course, as it’s her birthday we had a few surprises planned… starting with Ryan transforming into Louise’s “ideal man.” Or at least, that was the plan. Let’s just say it didn’t exactly go the way we expected.

We also get into why Louise actually HATES her birthday, and the deeper reason behind it. That conversation takes an unexpected turn, leading to a very honest reveal about why Louise and Ryan still aren’t married… even after being engaged for eight years. This also opens up Ryan’s biggest regret from his proposal.

Things get even more emotional as he shares a series of surprise gifts that leave Louise laughing, and a little teary.

And just when she thinks it’s over, there’s one final surprise… a very special guest crashes the recording to wish Louise a happy birthday. You’ll have to listen to the end to find out who.

00:00 Ryan dresses up to surprise Louise!

00:41 Why Louise hates her birthday

06:03 Louise’s Childhood Birthday Experiences

10:05 The Root of Birthday Discomfort

12:18 Why we aren’t married yet?!

15:57 Louise’s ideal Birthday

18:38 Ryan’s Shocking Engagement Revelation

22:41 Louise’s best birthday feeling

25:03 Dream Birthday Scenario

29:06 Birthday Present Surprises

32:10 A Decade of Birthdays Journey Together

41:28 Advice to Younger Selves

45:28 Mystery guest surprise revealed!

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This week we’re recording on the eve of our long-awaited trip - and let’s just Louise and Ryan approach holidays VERY differently...

We chat honestly about how travelling as parents hits differently, the mental load of planning, and why even a dream getaway can come with nightmares (literally).

Louise opens up about adjusting to life with a stoma bag and how it’s impacted confidence around things like swimwear and holidays, while Ryan shares what it’s been like supporting from the sidelines.

We also finally dive into love languages and how those differences can affect us. Add in our Type A vs Type B approach and… yes, there are clashes. One thing we do agree on - the online storm surrounding the Bonnie Blue viral pregnancy story and what it says about the world our children are growing up.

We also share where our heads are at when it comes to future family planning and the difficult decisions that come with it during uncertain times.

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