This week’s episode is a deeply personal one for Ryan, as he opens up about the experience of watching his grandma live with dementia, and the impact it’s had on him. He shares why it’s something that truly scares him, and reflects on the complicated ways we process change, including his own feelings about wanting to hold onto someone as they once were.

We then get into the topic of sleepovers… when is the “right” age, will Leo be allowed, and what about adult ones? Louise and Ryan have very different views on what happens if Leo brings someone home in the future….

And with Louise deep in her reality TV era thanks to Temptation Island (we get Ryan’s very honest reaction to it), the conversation turns to reality shows more broadly… on whether they have any regrets about their Made in Chelsea days?

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Louise and Ryan head to UK Parliament to back the call for a maternity commissioner, with Louise sharing why this fight is so deeply personal. She opens up about her own experience of giving birth and the stark reality that care for women in the UK is still falling short, and why change shouldn’t have to come at the cost of tragedy.

Then it pivots. A weekend away sparks a story no one saw coming, with unexpected glimpse into Ryan’s past as butler in the buff 👀. There’s also a chat about The Fury’s and how their approach to parenting might hold up if Leo married young, or started to swear at them.

And finally, a simple question: should you share your location with your partner? Ryan’s a hard no. Louise couldn’t disagree more….

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Louise has had a rare few days alone while Ryan and Leo headed off on their first father–son trip. Ryan reflects on what that one-on-one time meant to him, while Louise opens up about something many mums don’t say out loud: that she enjoyed the space, and why she refuses to feel guilt for needing time to herself.

That honesty leads into a bigger conversation. Inspired by Emma Grede describing herself as a “three-hour mum”, we unpack the pressure around modern motherhood. How much time is “enough” with your kids, what’s expectation versus reality, and how our own experiences shape the kind of parents we want to be.

We also share a major surrogacy update. It’s a big step forward, and one that brings a mix of hope, nerves, and the weight of everything starting to feel very real. And to close, we answer a listener question about how we navigated our darkest moments together and what it really took to come out the other side.

00:00 Introduction

01:50 Our double date weekend away

03:26 Our driving habits

07:22 Sam forgot to book a hotel room!

15:32 Ryan first trip alone with Leo

19:48 Ryan's Vision of Fatherhood

28:28 Louise's Solo Time away from Leo

34:03 No Mum Guilt in Taking Time Off

37:39 Emma Grede ‘Three Hour Mom’ Controversy

41:34 Sacrifices and Adaptability in Parenting

43:43 Our BIG Surrogacy Update

52:37 Listener Question: Keeping the Spark Alive Through Trauma

58:51 See you next week!

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