In this episode of Follow the Rabbit, host Kofi Osae-Attah sits down with Luigi Lenguito, the CEO and co-founder of BforeAI, for an in-depth discussion about the revolutionary field of predictive security. Luigi explains his "Pre-Crime" philosophy, which shifts the cybersecurity posture from "assume breach" and reactive threat detection to a model of preemptive measures that identifies malicious infrastructure - the criminal "DevOps" - before a single victim is affected.

Drawing an analogy to weather forecasting, Lenguito illustrates how data and supercomputing have transformed our ability to predict hurricanes. He argues that cybersecurity is currently in an "emergency room" phase - stressful and reactive - and that predictive intelligence is the key to moving "left of boom." By isolating and shutting down infrastructure before phishing pages or campaigns go live, organizations can stop being victims and become active participants in their own defense.

The conversation also addresses the role of automation in scaling these defenses. Given the predicted 5,000% increase in threats over the last year, Luigi makes a bold case for aggressive preemptive measures, even at the cost of minor false positives. He explains why the future is human-augmented, not human-operated, and how this shift enables CISOs to safeguard the ultimate business case for security: Brand trust.

1. Move "left of boom": Traditional threat detection (EDR/MDR) often means you are already a victim. Predictive security, on the other hand, identifies the "pre-attack" phase, which includes the registration of malicious domains and exfiltration servers.
2. The Weather Forecast Analogy: Just as we use satellites and models to preempt natural disasters, we must use automation to gain the foresight necessary to disrupt cybercrime before it starts.
3. Managing False Positives: Luigi argues for a shift in KPIs. Accepting a 0.05% rate of false positives is a strategic trade-off to avoid months-long, systemic outages that cost millions.
4. Democratized Cybercrime: The barrier to entry for attackers has collapsed due to generative AI (GenAI). There has been a shift from low-volume, high-skill APTs to high-volume, AI-augmented cybercrime using "hacking as a service."
5. The business case for security: Predictive technology protects brand reputation and ensures process resilience (OT/IT uptime). This allows limited human resources to focus on high-level strategy rather than manual takedowns.

Why Listen?

If your security team is experiencing alert fatigue and "emergency room" burnout, this episode provides a roadmap for a more proactive future. Luigi Lenguito offers the executive insight necessary to understand how automation and preventive measures save millions of potential cybercrime victims every day.

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In this episode of Follow the Rabbit, host Kofi Osae-Attah sits down with Octavia de Weerdt, the general director of NBIP. They discuss the pervasive rise of botnets and the invisible digital threats lurking in our living rooms. Octavia explains how our digital infrastructure, which we take pride in for its high-speed connectivity and smart home ecosystems, has become a double-edged sword. As we embrace digitalization, we inadvertently provide cybercrime networks with a massive, decentralized army of smart devices to power their next attack.

The conversation delves into the "paradox of the smart home," revealing that everything from routers to connected coffee makers can be exploited by malicious actors. Octavia reveals how these botnets use our personal devices against us, often without our knowledge. She warns that, as the internet security landscape shifts, we must adopt a multi-stakeholder approach balancing technology, European policy, and shared responsibility between manufacturers and providers.

Finally, Octavia highlights the unique Dutch model of collective resilience. By transforming a dense and vulnerable digital infrastructure into a collaborative defense network, the Netherlands is pioneering ways to mitigate cybercrime on a large scale. This episode is a wake-up call for everyone using the internet today. Understanding these hidden threats is the first step toward reclaiming our digital safety.

1. The Invisible Army: Massive botnet armies are active across the internet at any given moment, using compromised smart devices to launch global attacks.
2. The "Smart" Vulnerability: Every unmanaged device in your home, from routers to IoT gadgets, is a potential target for cybercrime.
3. Double-Edged Infrastructure: While our advanced digital infrastructure drives the economy, it also provides attackers with the capacity and speed needed to generate sophisticated digital threats.
4. Shared Responsibility: Protecting the internet requires more than individual caution. It requires stronger European security policies and proactive device management from internet service providers (ISPs).
5. Collective Resilience: The NaWas model demonstrates the importance of not-for-profit, community-driven organizations in defending against volumetric and application-layer attacks.

Why Listen?

If you have a Wi-Fi router or smart devices in your home, you are on the front lines of a global digital war. Octavia De Weerdt breaks down the complex worlds of botnets and internet security in practical, insightful ways that are essential for anyone operating in our highly connected world.

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You'll find Octavia on Linkedin.

Find more about the NBIP here. Dive deeper into the NaWas project.