In this episode Nick Townsend revisits the distinction between nationalism and patriotism by noting the difference between nationalism as a claim about where political power should lie (that is, with the nation state), and nationalism as a claim about what political power is for.

Barney’s new book is out, coauthored with Professor DavidElcott! On the Significance of Religion in Immigration Policy.

You can buy the book here or download it free here.

The book guides you through the Jewish and Christianarguments made for many different immigration policies throughout history and in the present day. It has sections that discuss:

• Bible verses used on all sides of the debate
• The state of Israel
• Christian values and US Immigration policy
• Ambiguities in the Jewish tradition
• European Immigration in medieval times and today
• Differences between Catholic, Orthodox, & Protestant approaches to immigration

In this conversation, Austin asks us questions about theintended audience of the book, its goals and aims, and we also talk a bit about the disagreements we had to overcome in order to have a truly interreligious publication!

In this episode, Barney and Austin interview the Rt. Rev. Rowan Williams for his views on Christian nationalism. He offers us wisdom that seeks what is good about both sides of the debate and aims to synthesise them into a thoroughly Christian way of thinking about national identity.Thanks to Jamie Maule for his sound engineering!